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Mercury Grand Marquis Buying Tips #5426277 05/11/20 11:07 AM
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I'm in the market for a Mercury Grand Marquis, preferably on a $3K-$6k budget. Am willing to go higher if the deal appears excellent.

Besides the obvious when buying a used car, what else should I look out for when reviewing this car for purchase? What are the best years for the Grand Marquis?

A sampler comparison under the assumption that both cars are pretty much equal in proportionate wear that appears to be in the good to very good range:

2002 Grand Marquis LS with 57,500 miles, selling at $3,700

versus

2005 Grand Marquis GS, cloth interior, steel wheels, with 72,500 miles, selling at $4000.

Re: Mercury Grand Marquis Buying Tips [Re: Bogdon] #5426294 05/11/20 11:26 AM
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What is so special about this model? Buy a Camry.


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Re: Mercury Grand Marquis Buying Tips [Re: Bogdon] #5426300 05/11/20 11:33 AM
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2001 and earlier have a design flaw with the intake manifold. Eventually they all crack and spew coolant. Make sure the manifold has been replaced if buying those years.

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I've been thinking about the Avalon, which is a stretched out Camry.

Whether the Camry or Avalon, the market for a Grand Marquis seems better.The Camrys and Avalons on sale typically cost more and have over 100,000 miles on them, plus the timing belt (as opposed to timing chain) issue.

Re: Mercury Grand Marquis Buying Tips [Re: Bogdon] #5426310 05/11/20 11:40 AM
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A friend of mine was into Crown Vics. He said the years with a rack & pinion have better steering. I think that was changed in the early 2000's.


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Re: Mercury Grand Marquis Buying Tips [Re: ripcord] #5426311 05/11/20 11:41 AM
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2001 and earlier have a design flaw with the intake manifold. Eventually they all crack and spew coolant. Make sure the manifold has been replaced if buying those years.

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Thanks. Does the The 2002 make the cut? Is it true that 2003 was the first year of a noticeably improved suspension?

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Originally Posted by Donald
What is so special about this model? Buy a Camry.


Some of us do not want a " foreign " car .

I would choose the 2002 Grand Marquis .


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Some of us do not want a " foreign " car .

I would choose the 2002 Grand Marquis .


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Even though the aforementioned 05 version has (as been communicated to me) an improved suspension? The comparison one again:

Under the assumption that both cars are pretty much equal in proportionate wear that appears to be in the good to very good range:

2002 Grand Marquis LS with 57,500 miles, selling at $3,700

versus

2005 Grand Marquis GS, cloth interior, steel wheels, with 72,500 miles, selling at $4000.

Re: Mercury Grand Marquis Buying Tips [Re: ripcord] #5426349 05/11/20 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ripcord
2001 and earlier have a design flaw with the intake manifold. Eventually they all crack and spew coolant. Make sure the manifold has been replaced if buying those years.


Unless it's been replaced by the one that doesn't break so easily...


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Re: Mercury Grand Marquis Buying Tips [Re: Donald] #5426355 05/11/20 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Donald
What is so special about this model? Buy a Camry.



Some want to drive dinosaurs here on BITOG because they (Crown Vics/Mercs) are cheap to buy and maintain-and they can get 300,000 miles out of them.

On this forum that is the pinnacle of automotive excellence.......

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Re: Mercury Grand Marquis Buying Tips [Re: Bogdon] #5426356 05/11/20 12:32 PM
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I had and still have a few of those. I prefer 2004, but they all have strengths and weaknesses. As for the manifold issues - all years require this work, different stats though. They had all-polymer manifold through early 2002, then replaced it with partially aluminium one. Still may give you a headache. I had one 2001 that was the best one I ever had out of all panthers. 2005 has this whip antenna, which is a major turn-off for many, not for me - a good negotiation point btw. All-in-all, surprisingly reliable American car. There is crownvic dot net congregation out there, they will get you more points for micro-management. The major thing: you do shop the owner, not the vehicle description. There are plenty of panthers out there, take your time and your patience will be rewarded.

[for whatever reasons, Lincoln Towncar of the same platform has been consistently the most reliable in my case.] I had a fleet of panthers with 360k miles minumum on each of those. Rack-and-pinion steering started in 2003, the more dependable transmission ended in early 2005, the same year introduced fly-by-wire throttle, there were all kinds of funky changes later on, icluding going back and forth with the oil filter types, etc. It is all BS, the platform is an old-fashioned and refined mass production vehicle that can easily go for 500k miles with regular care. There is still plenty of great and affordable garages that cater to cabbies... the old timer talent is still there. Don't make the project of finding and buying a torturous one, make it fun. As Romans used to say - festina lente - hurry slowly and good luck!

added: 2005 is much easier to work on when it comes to the rear shocks, but it is not a deal breaker. If I had to shop, and the 2002 had a better owner, I'd grab that one... and vice versa. Shop the owner, the best is the quintessential old geezer who cannot drive himself but still took impeccable care for his wife. I have an MGM where the guy would go by the book: if it had only 200 miles, but the 6 months were up, he'd take it for the oil change... things like that malke a huge and demonstrable difference. That one literally drives like new.

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Re: Mercury Grand Marquis Buying Tips [Re: Bogdon] #5426360 05/11/20 12:35 PM
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For cheap used cars, it's all about condition. So between those two, which ever one seems to be in better shape after you drive them. The newer one probably has less rust on it since it has seen fewer winters, but regardless, the one with less rust is the better choice.

If one is "good" and the other is "very good" then get the "very good" one.

Yes, 2003 is when they got the revised suspension. The good news is that Ford offers Motorcraft quick struts, should you need new ones.

FWIW, the Avalon 2006+ has the 2GR, which has a timing chain happy

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Set the front seat to your preferred driving position. Then, try getting into the backseat behind the driver and be shocked how a car this big can have no rear legroom whatsoever...


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Re: Mercury Grand Marquis Buying Tips [Re: Bogdon] #5426379 05/11/20 12:49 PM
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FWIW all of the 4.6L had issues with the intakes, even those with the "improved" design.

They changed to the rack and pinion with front struts in 2003.


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Re: Mercury Grand Marquis Buying Tips [Re: Bogdon] #5426396 05/11/20 01:07 PM
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I don't know the year breaks but don't some MGM/CV have good transmissions and others have the bad Taurus transmissions?

MY bil from TX has his mother's MGM...a '99 with low mileage. I keep telling him to keep his ear to the MGM rail and sell it. He has a modern car and doesn't even regard the car.

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