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Bosch P3029 ADBV Failure? #5424535 05/09/20 08:24 AM
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I noticed a few days ago that my 75 Capri had began to make pretty bad knocking sound on cold start, only for 1-2 seconds, but definitely an internal noise, like a rod knock type sound...

Today i took the oil filter off, barely 3 drops of oil came out of it, when usually it's full or nearly full.

Up until the last OCI i have always used Motorcraft filters, but my local Ford dealer didn't have them in stock back in November so i decided to put a Bosch on it.

I've done just over 1200km with it and was fine until a few days ago.

Nevertheless i bought 3 filters back in November, so i changed it and put another one on it this morning, cranked the engine over on the starter for a few seconds to fill the oil filter as i usually do, noise gone.

I will check the oil level in a few hours again and start it up and see wether or not the knock is gone.

Engine has an unknown mileage as it's not the original one to the car, i calculate around 150-180k miles, made in November 1972 and has never even had the heads off, i guess at this age and mileage some internal failure would not be that hard to believe but i've always taken good care of it, oil always regularly changed and kept full, never revved cold or anything like that, it has good oil pressure aswell.


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1975 Ford Capri II Ghia 3000 V6 - 315k, Repsol Elite Super 20W-50
1988 Ford Escort XR3i Cabrio - 110k, Valvoline Maxlife 10W-40

Re: Bosch P3029 ADBV Failure? [Re: FordCapriDriver] #5424591 05/09/20 09:34 AM
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I have seen some odd oil pressure things happen with oil filters. Changing the filter makes the problem go away. Put I could not put my finger on what was the exact issue.


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Re: Bosch P3029 ADBV Failure? [Re: FordCapriDriver] #5424597 05/09/20 09:39 AM
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If the filter was practically empty, it was defective. It should be full at all times. I have had filters bleed off so much oil that the dipstick readings on a cold engine always showed overfilled.

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Re: Bosch P3029 ADBV Failure? [Re: Lubener] #5424667 05/09/20 11:01 AM
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That is exactly my case, barely 3 drops of oil came out, and the dipstick showed it was overfilled.


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1988 Ford Escort XR3i Cabrio - 110k, Valvoline Maxlife 10W-40

Re: Bosch P3029 ADBV Failure? [Re: FordCapriDriver] #5424696 05/09/20 12:02 PM
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Update : Topped up the little oil that came out, started it again, no strange noises, let it warm up and gave it a few good revs, again nothing strange.


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Re: Bosch P3029 ADBV Failure? [Re: FordCapriDriver] #5424701 05/09/20 12:11 PM
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Wonder who makes Bosch in Spain? Would think it would be German manufactured? Definitely sounds like a common Puro nitrile ADBV failure.


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Re: Bosch P3029 ADBV Failure? [Re: FordCapriDriver] #5424741 05/09/20 01:32 PM
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Silicone ADBV I'd presume ... ?

Did you cut open the old filter to see if there's any evident reason the ADBV was leaking?

Re: Bosch P3029 ADBV Failure? [Re: FordCapriDriver] #5424816 05/09/20 03:05 PM
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Not yet and i have never cut open a filter.


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Re: Bosch P3029 ADBV Failure? [Re: bullwinkle] #5424818 05/09/20 03:07 PM
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I bought the filter ( I bought 3 ) from Autodoc, the biggest automotive parts company in Europe, based in Germany.


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Re: Bosch P3029 ADBV Failure? [Re: FordCapriDriver] #5424845 05/09/20 03:51 PM
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mobil one filters are made by the same company as Bosch. Mann+Hummel and there have been two threads on here the show torn ADBV from those. So it wouldn't surprise me.

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Champ made them for many years, no problems …

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Originally Posted by 4WD
Champ made them for many years, no problems …







Yes, the take over is recent.

Re: Bosch P3029 ADBV Failure? [Re: FordCapriDriver] #5426069 05/11/20 07:17 AM
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Well i just ordered a few genuine Motorcraft EFL90 filters, that's what the engine has always previously had on it, and i never have had any problems with them.
Will use the Bosch ones for target practice perhaps or simply to cut them open as i never have cut one open, no big loss i bought 3 for 15€


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1988 Ford Escort XR3i Cabrio - 110k, Valvoline Maxlife 10W-40

Re: Bosch P3029 ADBV Failure? [Re: FordCapriDriver] #5426230 05/11/20 10:16 AM
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I had a purolator classic do my truck like that. Stuck a pureone on it and it stopped doing that.

Re: Bosch P3029 ADBV Failure? [Re: FordCapriDriver] #5427138 05/12/20 09:00 AM
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I generally have the impression of Bosch making quality products, but i won't buy another Bosch oil filter for sure.
I remember i once also put a Bosch filter on my Escort and often the top end would rattle ( hydraulic lifters ) quite badly on cold start.
I put a Motorcraft EFL600 on it the next OCi and no more rattle since then.


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