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Amsoil - good amount of ester #5423845 05/08/20 07:00 AM
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Thanks to the Spanish YouTube channel, we can actually get a better idea of what is in some of these blends. Redline uses the most POE, followed by Amsoil. (see VOA section where Euro Redline 5w30 was posted).

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Re: Amsoil - good amount of ester [Re: buster] #5423862 05/08/20 07:21 AM
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Nissan has a white bottled oil that is high in ester.. Wonder who's the supplier?

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Re: Amsoil - good amount of ester [Re: Oildudeny] #5423864 05/08/20 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Oildudeny
Nissan has a white bottled oil that is high in ester.. Wonder who's the supplier?

Does that oil even have any esters as part of the base stock composition? We discussed that oil extensively here in the past and if I recall correctly the only "ester" was part of the additive package and comprised approximately 1% of the material. It's not an "ester oil" like Redline may be. Whatever the case it isn't "high in ester."


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Re: Amsoil - good amount of ester [Re: buster] #5423865 05/08/20 07:26 AM
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Likely not even close to the Amsoil number. Oils can contain 3% ester and claim they use ester. Motul does this and others.

I'm hoping he can do Mobil 1 Annual Protection. That uses AN's though which would be interesting to see how it appears.

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Originally Posted by Oildudeny
Nissan has a white bottled oil that is high in ester.. Wonder who's the supplier?

Does that oil even have any esters as part of the base stock composition? We discussed that oil extensively here in the past and if I recall correctly the only "ester" was part of the additive package and comprised approximately 1% of the material. It's not an "ester oil" like Redline may be.


I believe you're right. Probably barely any.


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Re: Amsoil - good amount of ester [Re: buster] #5423866 05/08/20 07:28 AM
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You are correct that this FTIR graph shows the presence of ester beyond the level expected from additives, but just to be clear, you cannot determine the percentage of ester by FTIR unless you know which ester is being used and account for all of the other C=O containing components affecting the baseline. Only gas chromatograph can identify the base oil components and quantify them.

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Thank you Tom. It is rumored that the esters come from Croda. I have no idea if that's true.


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Re: Amsoil - good amount of ester [Re: buster] #5423873 05/08/20 07:37 AM
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Redline 0w20

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Re: Amsoil - good amount of ester [Re: Tom NJ] #5423874 05/08/20 07:38 AM
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I think we should compile an official list of measurements used on BITOG, in addition to the acronyms sticky. We can start with:

Good Amount
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Boatload

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You are correct that this FTIR graph shows the presence of ester beyond the level expected from additives, but just to be clear, you cannot determine the percentage of ester by FTIR unless you know which ester is being used and account for all of the other C=O containing components affecting the baseline. Only gas chromatograph can identify the base oil components and quantify them.


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Re: Amsoil - good amount of ester [Re: bluesubie] #5423881 05/08/20 07:53 AM
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Spot on … and a very minor amount?

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Minor amount....a skoch as my grandma used to say.


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Re: Amsoil - good amount of ester [Re: Boomer] #5423910 05/08/20 08:34 AM
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Re: Amsoil - good amount of ester [Re: buster] #5423925 05/08/20 08:45 AM
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boatload of Ester + good amount / dose of Moly + minimal Noack = very strong oil = Amsoil SS shocked2

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Jeepers guys! You can buy bottles of ester lubricant all day long at Napa

POE. ISO 68 or 100, 80% pure, 20% inhibitors

Just add a half bottle, and away you go!

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