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Nothing ever goes right when working on my vehicles. #5423731 05/07/20 11:03 PM
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Last week the right rear wheel kept locking up on my 92 Cavalier when applying the brakes so I decided to take the tire and drum off to see what was going on. The first issue was that the drum would not come off. I spent about an hour beating on the drum and using a lot of penetrant before it came off. It was rusted on good. The last time I messed with the rear brakes on this car was almost 14 years ago when I put new pads and wheel cylinders in on both sides.

I see that I have a leaking wheel cylinder and the adjuster is frozen up. I get the adjuster freed up and decide that I was going to wait to do the wheel cylinder because you have to loosen the hub bearing assembly to remove the wheel cylinder since there is not enough room to get it off past the flange. I also decided to replace the pads and drums since they were about half way worn and the drum was in bad shape.

So today I decide to tackle the job. I start on the other side since I know the drum will be rusted on which it was. It takes me quite a while to get it off. I then remove all of the brake hardware so I can get to the hub bearing bolts. I get the brake line loose, wheel cylinder bolts loose, and the hub bearing bolts loose but then discovered that the wheel bearing is rusted to the backing plate so that I can't remove the wheel cylinder. The wheel cylinder is also rusted to the backing plate. It takes me about an hour to get those loose. Since it's been awhile since I've done drum brakes, I had to keep looking at the pictures I took before hand and I had some issues with installing the upper springs even though I have all of the correct tools. They just didn't want to cooperate.

I finally get that side done at about 2pm and I started at about 10am. I go to the other side where I had already taken the drum off from last week so that part went smooth but of coarse the hub bearing assembly and wheel cylinder was rusted to the backing plate. I finally got the other side done at about 4:30 pm and that included adjusting the parking brake.

I still had to bleed the brakes but I was tired so I packed it in and will finish that part tomorrow. With as much of a hassle this turned out to be, I should have just had our mechanic do it since he is pretty reasonable on prices. I put anti-seize on all of the contact surfaces this time just in case I ever have to take this stuff back apart.


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Re: Nothing ever goes right when working on my vehicles. [Re: wtd] #5423737 05/07/20 11:28 PM
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I think I found the source of your problems....

Originally Posted by wtd
Last week the right rear wheel kept locking up on my 92 Cavalier when applying the brakes ....

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Re: Nothing ever goes right when working on my vehicles. [Re: Lolvoguy] #5423748 05/08/20 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Lolvoguy
I think I found the source of your problems....

Originally Posted by wtd
Last week the right rear wheel kept locking up on my 92 Cavalier when applying the brakes ....

hornets

It's been a pretty reliable car. I bought it as a drive to work beater years ago and still drive it even though I'm retired now. It gets good gas mileage and insurance is cheap so I keep it around. Plus I think it's an antique now. LOL


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Re: Nothing ever goes right when working on my vehicles. [Re: wtd] #5423749 05/08/20 12:18 AM
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OP:

If you ran into all those hassles and still got the job done in 6 1/2 hours - congrats! It sounds like the job went well considering, just so long as you did it right. Has to be a big PIA, working on rusty stuff like that. I wouldn't like it either.

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Re: Nothing ever goes right when working on my vehicles. [Re: wtd] #5423760 05/08/20 01:46 AM
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Re: Nothing ever goes right when working on my vehicles. [Re: wtd] #5423776 05/08/20 03:18 AM
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You did good!

Amazing thing about rear drums like this is they've probably only needed to be messed with 2x since 1992.


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Re: Nothing ever goes right when working on my vehicles. [Re: wtd] #5423788 05/08/20 04:39 AM
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Man I hate fooling with drums. Not because they're super hard, they just never want to go back together like they're supposed to and you end up dropping this or that or not being able to get something lined up right. I'd rather do 20 sets of disks to one set of drums....unless its a mid 90's Honda Accord, you can keep those too.


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Re: Nothing ever goes right when working on my vehicles. [Re: wtd] #5423804 05/08/20 05:38 AM
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I tell myself, this won’t take long. I get everything ready beforehand. But, most times it never comes off as planned.


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Re: Nothing ever goes right when working on my vehicles. [Re: wtd] #5423834 05/08/20 06:50 AM
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I don't think Fred Flintstone's car had all these issues. Maybe our advancement of automobile technology was not a positive step?


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Re: Nothing ever goes right when working on my vehicles. [Re: wtd] #5423836 05/08/20 06:51 AM
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I have had bad luck on some of those jobs too. I hire out the tough jobs now since I usually don't have the correct tools for some of those jobs or the intestinal fortitude.


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Re: Nothing ever goes right when working on my vehicles. [Re: wtd] #5423843 05/08/20 06:59 AM
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Instead of replacing the wheel cylinders , did you consider re-building them . Back in the day , I had a wheel cylinder hone I used for this type of repair . Purchased , I think , at Sears . No idea where it is now ? In a pinch , I have used emery cloth .

I also dislike doing drum brakes ! :-(

Good to hear you got it done .


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Re: Nothing ever goes right when working on my vehicles. [Re: wtd] #5423857 05/08/20 07:12 AM
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Everything takes me twice as long as it should, usually because I cannot find the right tool....need to clean out my garage someday.


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Re: Nothing ever goes right when working on my vehicles. [Re: Lolvoguy] #5423868 05/08/20 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Lolvoguy
I think I found the source of your problems....

Originally Posted by wtd
Last week the right rear wheel kept locking up on my 92 Cavalier when applying the brakes ....

hornets

Nailed it


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Re: Nothing ever goes right when working on my vehicles. [Re: wtd] #5423891 05/08/20 08:12 AM
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Everything I do takes at least 3x then it should. And Im always missing at least one essential tool (even if I own it, cant find it).

I dont have issues wrenching onm y early 1980s MB cars, but they are completely rust free and barely see even rain at this point. A car approaching 30 years, if lived outside, will have different levels of materials brittleness, corrosion and rust, etc.

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I think there's value in busting apart brakes on a yearly basis, all the moreso up here.

At least you got it done, and if anything went sideways, you had other vehicles to bail yourself out with. Once in a while I look at a job and ask myself, if this goes sideways, can it be towed from here? If I think think I can't get it done, then that's the sign to let someone else do it. Otherwise I'll tackle it, might not like parking it for a few days but once in, gotta finish it.


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