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Pennzoil's recommendation for 2019 VW/Audi 2.0T #5416997 04/30/20 05:20 AM
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interesting...
VW508.00 shows as "alternate" (not shown here). This may be the sweet spot ARCO has been looking for. wink

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2013 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.0T: RGT 5W30, H/K Filter
Re: Pennzoil's recommendation for 2019 VW/Audi 2.0T [Re: wemay] #5417019 04/30/20 06:24 AM
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That’s pretty much a 504.00/507.00 oil. The first oil change I did in our Tiguan, I used Mobil 1 ESP 5W30. The car was a little quieter. I would have stuck with that oil but, I was worried that any engine problems would be blamed on not using the 508.00 specified oils. If I could find a 504.00/507.00 oil with the tracer dye in it, I would definitely use it.


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Re: Pennzoil's recommendation for 2019 VW/Audi 2.0T [Re: wemay] #5417024 04/30/20 06:33 AM
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Sweet spot? I run my 2019 VW Passat that requires the 508 0W-20 oil on the Castrol 508 oil of that weight and the car does just fine. I average well over 42 mpg on the highway and the car has great pickup, acceleration and smoohtness. I'll stick to what the VW engineers recommend for the engine.


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Re: Pennzoil's recommendation for 2019 VW/Audi 2.0T [Re: Boomer] #5417064 04/30/20 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
Sweet spot? I run my 2019 VW Passat that requires the 508 0W-20 oil on the Castrol 508 oil of that weight and the car does just fine. I average well over 42 mpg on the highway and the car has great pickup, acceleration and smoohtness. I'll stick to what the VW engineers recommend for the engine.


Sweet spot in relation to a previous thread with ARCOGRAPHITE. Lol


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Re: Pennzoil's recommendation for 2019 VW/Audi 2.0T [Re: wemay] #5417149 04/30/20 09:49 AM
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Fantastic oil and the closest thing Pennzoil has to VW 508, thus the "recommended for" I guess. They should just up and admit they don't have a VW 508 oil yet.

I'm sure it would work very well though, VW 504 is no slouch.


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Re: Pennzoil's recommendation for 2019 VW/Audi 2.0T [Re: KCJeep] #5417156 04/30/20 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by KCJeep
Fantastic oil and the closest thing Pennzoil has to VW 508, thus the "recommended for" I guess. They should just up and admit they don't have a VW 508 oil yet.

I'm sure it would work very well though, VW 504 is no slouch.


This is my view as well. They know it will work just fine until they formulate their own VW508 product.


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2013 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.0T: RGT 5W30, H/K Filter
Re: Pennzoil's recommendation for 2019 VW/Audi 2.0T [Re: wemay] #5417332 04/30/20 01:02 PM
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Pennzoil is wrong because they are assuming the Passat doesn't have the Budack cycle.

If you punched in Audi A4, it probably won't distinguish between the regular engine and the ultra's Budack engine


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Re: Pennzoil's recommendation for 2019 VW/Audi 2.0T [Re: MParr] #5417355 04/30/20 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by MParr
That’s pretty much a 504.00/507.00 oil. The first oil change I did in our Tiguan, I used Mobil 1 ESP 5W30. The car was a little quieter. I would have stuck with that oil but, I was worried that any engine problems would be blamed on not using the 508.00 specified oils. If I could find a 504.00/507.00 oil with the tracer dye in it, I would definitely use it.


You won’t find this. Only the 0W-20 has the dye


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Re: Pennzoil's recommendation for 2019 VW/Audi 2.0T [Re: UG_Passat] #5417356 04/30/20 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by UG_Passat
Pennzoil is wrong because they are assuming the Passat doesn't have the Budack cycle.

If you punched in Audi A4, it probably won't distinguish between the regular engine and the ultra's Budack engine


I was just typing this same thing in. This is the wrong oil on Pennzoil website.


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Re: Pennzoil's recommendation for 2019 VW/Audi 2.0T [Re: wemay] #5417357 04/30/20 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by wemay
interesting...
VW508.00 shows as "alternate" (not shown here). This may be the sweet spot ARCO has been looking for. wink


This is the wrong oil. Do not use it! Pennzoil is incorrect!


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Re: Pennzoil's recommendation for 2019 VW/Audi 2.0T [Re: wemay] #5417463 04/30/20 03:19 PM
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I made up my mind. I can buy Luqui Moly Longtime High Tech 5W30 (VW502, VW505) oil change kits (6 qts of oil, filter and drain plug) from my local NAPA pretty reasonably - $58.


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Re: Pennzoil's recommendation for 2019 VW/Audi 2.0T [Re: wemay] #5417710 04/30/20 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by wemay
I made up my mind. I can buy Luqui Moly Longtime High Tech 5W30 (VW502, VW505) oil change kits (6 qts of oil, filter and drain plug) from my local NAPA pretty reasonably - $58.


Why ask the question? Everyone is telling you the same thing for a reason. You should Really do your research on that engine from LONG Term improper oil usage and effects on timing chain wear, valve, CAT damage and other Oiling related issues. Your particular unit may have the variable oil pressure pump system designed around maintaining a certain flow/viscosity

Further more, the is much Less soot and tailpipe residue from the lower SAPs oil. Like the 504.00 than predecessors. Almost no tailpipe soot in my VR6 using 504.00 after 9.5k miles OCI.

This is just one example.

https://youtu.be/MhgZ7_oHVyY

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Re: Pennzoil's recommendation for 2019 VW/Audi 2.0T [Re: TheIceStormof06] #5417817 04/30/20 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TheIceStormof06
Originally Posted by wemay
I made up my mind. I can buy Luqui Moly Longtime High Tech 5W30 (VW502, VW505) oil change kits (6 qts of oil, filter and drain plug) from my local NAPA pretty reasonably - $58.


Why ask the question? Everyone is telling you the same thing for a reason. You should Really do your research on that engine from LONG Term improper oil usage and effects on timing chain wear, valve, CAT damage and other Oiling related issues. Your particular unit may have the variable oil pressure pump system designed around maintaining a certain flow/viscosity

Further more, the is much Less soot and tailpipe residue from the lower SAPs oil. Like the 504.00 than predecessors. Almost no tailpipe soot in my VR6 using 504.00 after 9.5k miles OCI.

This is just one example.

https://youtu.be/MhgZ7_oHVyY


Thanks for the video, love the Humble Mechanic -
But my choice is to stick with a higher HTHS motor oil to protect the cam lobes and timing components in my EA888. I'm not saying 508 cannot do so, it just takes a different approach - additive technology. Be it the older specs 502/505 or newer 504 - i will choose one of these moving further. Again, i'm sure 508 will do the job while relying on the additives as well. But my choice is to rely on a thicker oil. I understand what awaits me if engine failure occurs while under warranty. thumbsup


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Re: Pennzoil's recommendation for 2019 VW/Audi 2.0T [Re: wemay] #5417903 05/01/20 02:55 AM
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Happy Birthday, wemay!


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Re: Pennzoil's recommendation for 2019 VW/Audi 2.0T [Re: Gokhan] #5417959 05/01/20 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Gokhan
Happy Birthday, wemay!


Thank you Gokhan 😊


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