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Extract oil....not for me. #5415694 04/28/20 03:14 PM
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I could see the time saving benefits if you have a filter on top of the engine but that is all. I have a lift and during the time the vehicle is up in the air I do a thorough inspection of the brakes,suspension,steering,exhaust, CV/U joints. Check for leaks and generally look for anything out of the ordinary. Of course you can also do the other under the car fluid services as required. So I guess the question is, do folks that use extractors forego the other maintenance that requires being under the car. I see many flush the transmission without changing the filter, why bother? I guess it isn't too surprising on a board that the majority is fixated on the lowest cost /longest OCI available for their vehicle. Do oil extractor folks do the required inspections that require being under the car or do they skip them?


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Re: Extract oil....not for me. [Re: sloinker] #5415710 04/28/20 03:29 PM
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Not many people would argue with you if they had Lifts. If I had a lift, I would totally agree with you. When I found out that Mercedes dealers used extraction, I started using one. The filter is on the top and it's the only thing I can do on the car these days.
But you are correct in being able to inspect everything.

Re: Extract oil....not for me. [Re: sloinker] #5415730 04/28/20 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by sloinker
Do oil extractor folks do the required inspections that require being under the car or do they skip them?

I skipped 'em. In NH it goes on a lift once/year no matter what due to safety inspection.

Despite "never" being under the car I still caught a CV boot when it gave up, on my one car that I did topside oil changes on. [On that car the oil filter could only be changed topside. And it had a bellypan with at least 10 bolts holding it in place.]


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Re: Extract oil....not for me. [Re: sloinker] #5415731 04/28/20 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by sloinker
So I guess the question is, do folks that use extractors forego the other maintenance that requires being under the car. …. Do oil extractor folks do the required inspections that require being under the car or do they skip them?

What other "maintenance" are you referring to?
It's not like everyone is driving around in a 64 Fury with greasable u joints, ball joints and tie rod ends.


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Re: Extract oil....not for me. [Re: sloinker] #5415736 04/28/20 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by sloinker
I could see the time saving benefits if you have a filter on top of the engine but that is all. I have a lift and during the time the vehicle is up in the air I do a thorough inspection of the brakes,suspension,steering,exhaust, CV/U joints. Check for leaks and generally look for anything out of the ordinary. Of course you can also do the other under the car fluid services as required. So I guess the question is, do folks that use extractors forego the other maintenance that requires being under the car. I see many flush the transmission without changing the filter, why bother? I guess it isn't too surprising on a board that the majority is fixated on the lowest cost /longest OCI available for their vehicle. Do oil extractor folks do the required inspections that require being under the car or do they skip them?


If you can get the drain plug out then why not drain the oil. I have the Fumoto on my Subaru and I can just feel for the level to turn. So I do not have to get under very far.

Marine engines are what typically have used extractors I thought.


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Re: Extract oil....not for me. [Re: Lolvoguy] #5415784 04/28/20 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Lolvoguy
Originally Posted by sloinker
So I guess the question is, do folks that use extractors forego the other maintenance that requires being under the car. …. Do oil extractor folks do the required inspections that require being under the car or do they skip them?

What other "maintenance" are you referring to?
It's not like everyone is driving around in a 64 Fury with greasable u joints, ball joints and tie rod ends.


Exactly. Just because you're doing stuff doesn't mean your vehicle will last or drive longer or better.


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Re: Extract oil....not for me. [Re: sloinker] #5415789 04/28/20 04:44 PM
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My sense is that extraction is great for vehicles with the filter accessible from above. If one has to get under the car then the advantage goes away.

I do agree with the idea that getting underneath allows one to visually inspect for anything amiss. You can catch problems early on. That goes for above as well. A quick check around plus topping off washer fluids makes sense.


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Re: Extract oil....not for me. [Re: sloinker] #5415805 04/28/20 05:01 PM
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The filter on two of my vehicles is on top of the engine, but I still drain from below. For me, there is no advantage to extraction.


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Re: Extract oil....not for me. [Re: Leo99] #5415825 04/28/20 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Leo99
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Originally Posted by sloinker
So I guess the question is, do folks that use extractors forego the other maintenance that requires being under the car. …. Do oil extractor folks do the required inspections that require being under the car or do they skip them?

What other "maintenance" are you referring to?
It's not like everyone is driving around in a 64 Fury with greasable u joints, ball joints and tie rod ends.


Exactly. Just because you're doing stuff doesn't mean your vehicle will last or drive longer or better.

So maybe Sloinker's use of the word 'maintenance' was misplaced but additional visual inspection is certainly a reasonable expectation when under a vehicle.

All it takes is one time of spotting a torn CV or ball joint boot early to make it worth while.

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I have an extractor. I normally don't use them for oil changes on the vehicles. Primarily used for Lawnmower, Snowblower and fluid extractions for Power steering reservoirs, P/S lines etc.

Usually inspect stuff when I'm swapping winter tires twice a year and when I do oil changes.


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Re: Extract oil....not for me. [Re: sloinker] #5415918 04/28/20 07:00 PM
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In the owners manual, maintenance manual there are time and mileage intervals for all I noted. Many can only be done from under the vehicle.


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Re: Extract oil....not for me. [Re: sloinker] #5415993 04/28/20 08:59 PM
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One can reach an age where it is very difficult to crawl under to do the oil drain. At that point we have a choice of suck out the oil and replace or let someone else drain it. I will most probably do the suck it out method IF the design lets my get ~ 95% out. Ed


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Re: Extract oil....not for me. [Re: sloinker] #5416004 04/28/20 09:11 PM
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Even on cars with filters below, extracting all the oil from above makes for much less hassle and mess for me.

99% of the oil transports itself into the sealed extractor vessel, as if by magic. Then it’s an easy, clean pour with the integrated spout directly into my recycling jugs.

Or I could let 5+ quarts of scalding hot oil come blasting out the drain hole that’s 8” from my face as I lay on my back and hope I catch it all in the catch pan. Then slide the sloshing pan out from under the car, again hoping I don’t spill more on the way to my recycling jugs.

Been using an oil extractor every chance I can for 15+
years and I’ll never go back.

Plus, changing oil on outdoor power equipment with one is by-far the best way to do it.





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Re: Extract oil....not for me. [Re: E365] #5416023 04/28/20 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by E365






Or I could let 5+ quarts of scalding hot oil come blasting out the drain hole that’s 8” from my face as I lay on my back and hope I catch it all in the catch pan. Then slide the sloshing pan out from under the car, again hoping I don’t spill more on the way to my recycling jugs.









Pretty dramatic...


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I extract every other OCI now with the COVID-19 slow down may extract 2:1 stay tuned.


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