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Why NO Love for Pennzoil Euro Brands on BITOG #5415123 04/27/20 10:03 PM
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So, this is really anecdotal and my observation and not fact...

I’m based in SE USA. It seems like there is no love for Pennzoil Euro Spec oils here on BITOG. I’m wondering why? It seems like everyone Is Quick to suggest or recommend boutique brands or mainstream Mobil 1, Valvoline, castrol Etc varieties.

From a general standpoint, the Pennzoil LX or Euro (non VW vehicle) seem like great options on paper. Although, I can’t seem to find a good Pennzoil Euro 0W-20 listed...?

I have a VW VR6 3.6 calling for VW 504.00. I have Mobil 1 ESP 0W-30 ready for the next OC. But I’ve always had my Eye on the Pennzoil Euro LX 0W-30 for my next fill for general purposes. On Paper, I like the Mobil 1. But why not Pennzoil? Comparing the two above, which is better? Mobil 1 ESP or the Pennzoil Euro LX? I’ll be doing 10K OCIs, in hot and humid Southern weather. I plan on sticking to 0W-30


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Re: Why NO Love for Pennzoil Euro Brands on BITOG [Re: TheIceStormof06] #5415140 04/27/20 10:17 PM
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I've got Pennzoil Euro 0w30 LX in my 6.0 liter Chevy right now. laugh


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Re: Why NO Love for Pennzoil Euro Brands on BITOG [Re: TheIceStormof06] #5415155 04/27/20 10:48 PM
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Plenty of people like PP Euro L, and you can often find it at Walmart for the same price as their non-Euro oils smile

Some stores may not carry it due to low sales, but this is at the individual store level.

Re: Why NO Love for Pennzoil Euro Brands on BITOG [Re: TheIceStormof06] #5415187 04/27/20 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by TheIceStormof06
So, this is really anecdotal and my observation and not fact...

I’m based in SE USA. It seems like there is no love for Pennzoil Euro Spec oils here on BITOG. I’m wondering why? It seems like everyone Is Quick to suggest or recommend boutique brands or mainstream Mobil 1, Valvoline, castrol Etc varieties.

From a general standpoint, the Pennzoil LX or Euro (non VW vehicle) seem like great options on paper. Although, I can’t seem to find a good Pennzoil Euro 0W-20 listed...?

I have a VW VR6 3.6 calling for VW 504.00. I have Mobil 1 ESP 0W-30 ready for the next OC. But I’ve always had my Eye on the Pennzoil Euro LX 0W-30 for my next fill for general purposes. On Paper, I like the Mobil 1. But why not Pennzoil? Comparing the two above, which is better? Mobil 1 ESP or the Pennzoil Euro LX? I’ll be doing 10K OCIs, in hot and humid Southern weather. I plan on sticking to 0W-30

I have PP Euro 5W40 in BMW now.
Part of the problem is that PP Euro Full-SAPS is not available in Wal Mart. It goes on sale often though in AZ and AAp. That is how I got 10 quarts.
However, would I pay $10 a quart compared to Castrol or M1 in Wal mart going for $22-25 for 5qt? NO!

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Re: Why NO Love for Pennzoil Euro Brands on BITOG [Re: TheIceStormof06] #5415272 04/28/20 05:12 AM
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I bought some for my Euro cars, just haven't been able to try them out yet.

Re: Why NO Love for Pennzoil Euro Brands on BITOG [Re: TheIceStormof06] #5415309 04/28/20 06:28 AM
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I tried finding it for my BMW. All I could find was individual quarts for 10-11 a piece. I’m not paying 70 bucks to change my oil. That’s two changes with Castrol.


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Re: Why NO Love for Pennzoil Euro Brands on BITOG [Re: TheIceStormof06] #5415330 04/28/20 07:14 AM
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I wouldn't say there's no love for it on BITOG. It's just that BMW and Mercedes Benz never transitioned away from A3/B4 to C3 on their legacy fleet of gas engines in addition to the fact that Castrol / M1 flavors have always been readily available. BMW for example just upgraded their LL01 spec (A3/B4) rather than dumping it for the LL04 (C3). VW 504/507 has been around since 2010-ish.

I also think Penn Euro L is harder to find. I was in a AAP, AZ, and Pepboys a couple of months ago and Euro oils were Castrol or M1.


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Re: Why NO Love for Pennzoil Euro Brands on BITOG [Re: TheIceStormof06] #5415331 04/28/20 07:16 AM
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I'm gonna say that there is no love for Pennzoil Euro is due to lack of availability. Or maybe is sells out so quickly that I don't see it on shelves...Out of sight, out of mind!

The first time I ever saw Pennzoil Euro was ~3 months ago on a closeout rack/shelf at AAP for $10+/qt. I believe that it was 0W30 but, I can't be sure anymore. I've only heard about it here at Bob's but hadn't seen it til then and haven't seen it since.

And since I don't particularly look for it, this may be why I hadn't seen it either.

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Re: Why NO Love for Pennzoil Euro Brands on BITOG [Re: TheIceStormof06] #5415335 04/28/20 07:19 AM
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I used to run the Euro Spec Pennzoil Ultra 5W40 in my Volvos all the time. It performed very well. Low oil consumption. Good UOA.

My last purchase was in 2012, however.

Because it's both hard to find and priced at double what other oils cost. Nobody has it in stock around here. Amazon wants $50 for a 6 pack.

When I could buy a jug of Castrol 5W40 on Amazon for $22, or get a six pack of the Mobil 0W40 for $28 at Costco, why would I spend so much to buy the Pennzoil?


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Re: Why NO Love for Pennzoil Euro Brands on BITOG [Re: TheIceStormof06] #5415341 04/28/20 07:29 AM
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Although a lot of Pennzoil products sold in Canada are made in Canada, the LX is not. The Pennzoil LX 0w30 presently in my vehicle is made in Germany.

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Re: Why NO Love for Pennzoil Euro Brands on BITOG [Re: TheIceStormof06] #5415345 04/28/20 07:32 AM
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I run Pennzoil Euro 0W-40 in my MB C300. A couple of years back WM clearanced all of it and I grabbed about 25 gallons.


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Re: Why NO Love for Pennzoil Euro Brands on BITOG [Re: TheIceStormof06] #5415372 04/28/20 08:02 AM
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They were all the rage on here a few years back.


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Re: Why NO Love for Pennzoil Euro Brands on BITOG [Re: TheIceStormof06] #5415375 04/28/20 08:08 AM
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They dropped it here about two years ago … I grabbed some from the clearance aisle …

Re: Why NO Love for Pennzoil Euro Brands on BITOG [Re: TheIceStormof06] #5415402 04/28/20 08:39 AM
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Thanks for everyone’s input. Most of the responses here have been about availability and pricing. I can easily source the Pennzoil locally and online.

Can we take those two factors Out for a moment and discuss the technically attributes and advantages that each possess?


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Re: Why NO Love for Pennzoil Euro Brands on BITOG [Re: TheIceStormof06] #5415405 04/28/20 08:43 AM
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You mean other than the approvals or certifications that oil has or doesn't have compared to similar ones from ExxonMobil or Castrol?

Or are you looking for someone to predict the future performance of one product over another based on marketing or a PDS?


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