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Honda engine Vs Nissan #5414892 04/27/20 06:14 PM
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Hi BITOG,
We have 6 Nissan VQ 3.5L in the family, Muranos (2) and Maximas (4 of them, 11, 09 , 03 and 02), and about 4 Honda engines between 3.5L and 2.4L (Odesseys and CRV), all Nissan ones run on synthetic 5w30 (Synth Pennzoil or Mobil1) same for the Hondas (only difference is 5w20 or 0w20). (side note: Pennzoil UP is much quieter than Mobil1 in all)

ALL Honda engines are much smoother and quieter than the Nissan ones! especially when cold outside. ALL engines are meticulously maintained through out their lives!

Does the Xw20 oil make engines run smoother or it just Honda charm (or Nissan timing chains)?

Interested to hear your opinions!

Re: Honda engine Vs Nissan [Re: mahanddeem] #5414925 04/27/20 06:41 PM
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I have both as well.
Pretty sure its chains vs belts.

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Re: Honda engine Vs Nissan [Re: mahanddeem] #5414939 04/27/20 06:58 PM
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I hear kind of a weird or grinding noise in my cars with timing chain. Basically not as smooth ... Maybe it's my imagination or just a coincidence.

What do you guys hear?

Re: Honda engine Vs Nissan [Re: mahanddeem] #5414943 04/27/20 07:01 PM
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Honda engines overall are better engineered than Nissan.


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Re: Honda engine Vs Nissan [Re: PowerSurge] #5414944 04/27/20 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by PowerSurge
Honda engines overall are better engineered than Nissan.


Hmmmmm🤔
The Nissan 4.0L V6 is and maybe one of the best engines made. It’s for sure the best V6 right now from a durability and reliability stand point.

Re: Honda engine Vs Nissan [Re: mahanddeem] #5414951 04/27/20 07:21 PM
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Timing belts are quieter than chains. Period. However, presuming some attention to oil changes, a timing chain will - almost - never need replacement.


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Re: Honda engine Vs Nissan [Re: KGMtech] #5414953 04/27/20 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by KGMtech
Timing belts are quieter than chains. Period. However, presuming some attention to oil changes, a timing chain will - almost - never need replacement.


A nissan chain likely won't.

An eco boost or a chevy equinox chain might.

As for the Hondas being better engineered Im not so sure about that..

Wasn't the vq35 on ward best engines for like 10 years?

Neither my Maxima nor g35 ever gave me a lick of trouble.


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Re: Honda engine Vs Nissan [Re: mahanddeem] #5414959 04/27/20 07:32 PM
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Timing belts still being used on Honda?


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Re: Honda engine Vs Nissan [Re: PowerSurge] #5414961 04/27/20 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by UncleDave
Pretty sure its chains vs belts.
Don't the 2.4L Honda engines use a chain ? Not all Honda engines use a timing belt.

Originally Posted by PowerSurge
Honda engines overall are better engineered than Nissan.
Absolute opinion....

Re: Honda engine Vs Nissan [Re: mahanddeem] #5414963 04/27/20 07:36 PM
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VQ engines are as stout as any V6 out there. Not perfect, as can be seen in some oil usage mostly at higher mileage, but stout nonetheless. Honda V6s are smooth, as eluded to previously, largely thanks to having a timing belt. A lot will fall apart on a Nissan before the engine starts giving you troubles.

However, I've never once met a person claim the Honda 2.4L to sound like a refined engine, nor have I ever heard a 2.4L sound refined myself. My guess, and I'm not trying to make this too personal, is that it's mostly in your head, since there's no empirical reason to believe that M1 is louder than Pennzoil, yet you claim that to be the case across all cars and all engines in your fleet.

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Originally Posted by Propflux01
Timing belts still being used on Honda?

The J series engines use timing belts. Honda's 4 cylinders are all chains.

Re: Honda engine Vs Nissan [Re: UncleDave] #5415008 04/27/20 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by UncleDave
Originally Posted by KGMtech
Timing belts are quieter than chains. Period. However, presuming some attention to oil changes, a timing chain will - almost - never need replacement.


Neither my Maxima nor g35 ever gave me a lick of trouble.


What year is your Maxima Uncle Dave and what is the mileage?

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Originally Posted by JustN89
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Timing belts still being used on Honda?

The J series engines use timing belts. Honda's 4 cylinders are all chains.



There were plenty of Honda I4's that are belts.

Currently all I4's are chains, but prior to 2003 that wasn't the case.

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Originally Posted by mahanddeem
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Timing belts are quieter than chains. Period. However, presuming some attention to oil changes, a timing chain will - almost - never need replacement.


Neither my Maxima nor g35 ever gave me a lick of trouble.


What year is your Maxima Uncle Dave and what is the mileage?


It was a 95 sold (lol) to sister at 150K and went to 250 before she dumped it.

The G35 was an 06 I got rid of in 2000 when wife 2 arrived with a kids. I only had about 40K.

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Originally Posted by UncleDave
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Timing belts are quieter than chains. Period. However, presuming some attention to oil changes, a timing chain will - almost - never need replacement.


A nissan chain likely won't.

An eco boost or a chevy equinox chain might.

As for the Hondas being better engineered Im not so sure about that..

Wasn't the vq35 on ward best engines for like 10 years?

Neither my Maxima nor g35 ever gave me a lick of trouble.


Those Equinox 4 cylinders have crazy chain rattle!!


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