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Fatal explosion when replacing fuel pump #5413332 04/26/20 03:50 AM
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Last year i manually siphoned 20 gallons of stale gas from a boat. What a pain in the [censored] and thought to myself how much easier it would be if i connected an electric pump. I saw this article this morning.

https://www.wabi.tv/content/news/Le...-while-working-on-his-car-569959321.html

Re: Fatal explosion when replacing fuel pump [Re: wormwood1978] #5413333 04/26/20 03:52 AM
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Not a good way to go. eek

Re: Fatal explosion when replacing fuel pump [Re: wormwood1978] #5413346 04/26/20 05:51 AM
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Re: Fatal explosion when replacing fuel pump [Re: wormwood1978] #5413370 04/26/20 06:47 AM
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I see the cheap pump advertised on TV and wondered if using that could have the same result.


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Re: Fatal explosion when replacing fuel pump [Re: wormwood1978] #5413372 04/26/20 06:55 AM
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Thanks for sharing. A good reminder,
Notice How often you see someone pumping gas these day with the vehicle running, especially...99.99% of the time it isn’t an issue, unless there is a fuel spill.


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Re: Fatal explosion when replacing fuel pump [Re: wormwood1978] #5413374 04/26/20 07:07 AM
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Yikes. Not good practice to sit amidst a bunch of full gas cans, but it’s a little bit surprising that a little transfer pump would be sparking so bad that it would cause an explosion outdoors. I get it if it’s in an enclosed space. Conditions must have been just right.

Sad, especially since the design for the tank and pump probably didn’t have to be that way, and a slight design change with an access cover and a pump that is removable from the top might have avoided this...

Re: Fatal explosion when replacing fuel pump [Re: wormwood1978] #5413384 04/26/20 07:25 AM
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A few years back, a guy I know was draining gas from the tank of a customers survivor 67 Camaro. He spilled the gas onto a corded 120 volt drop light with a regular 60 watt bulb in it. Huge fireball and lit up the shop. He was burned pretty badly as well. It was his own shop and also housed his own cars and motorcycles. Im pretty sure it was a total loss... building, cars, customers car...
It seemed odd to me he would have made such a rookie mistake. He had been in the business for a lot of years.
I would never pump gasoline with an electric anything.

Re: Fatal explosion when replacing fuel pump [Re: wormwood1978] #5413454 04/26/20 09:08 AM
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Well, it does beg the question since there are all types of electric pumps for pumping flammable and explosive liquids that are intrinsically safe and well proven,

Was a "fit for purpose" electric pump being used and if so was it a pump malfunction or misuse in an unsafe manner.

The articles I saw don't really address that very important question.

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Originally Posted by NYEngineer
I would never pump gasoline with an electric anything.
everytime you go to the gas station you are using an electric something to pump gas. You car most likely has an electric fuel pump.


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Re: Fatal explosion when replacing fuel pump [Re: wormwood1978] #5413460 04/26/20 09:13 AM
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A spark with a lot of gas fumes = not good


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Re: Fatal explosion when replacing fuel pump [Re: wormwood1978] #5413530 04/26/20 10:40 AM
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Bought a battery pump similar to this one at walmart $11 to remove 20 gallons.of gas when replacing fuel pump in my van after dropping the tank then refilling tank when done.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Handheld...Oil-Water-Liquid-Transfer-Pump/738242503

Re: Fatal explosion when replacing fuel pump [Re: wormwood1978] #5413684 04/26/20 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by CT8
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I would never pump gasoline with an electric anything.
everytime you go to the gas station you are using an electric something to pump gas. You car most likely has an electric fuel pump.

Yes, but the pump at the gas station probably isn't some cheap "made in China" garbage which sells new for under $10.

Anyone who uses a cheap electric fuel pump of the aforementioned quality can only expect favorable results.
Similar to those who use old concrete blocks to suspend a car while working underneath.

If I were in that position, I'd use something that uses vacuum to create suction, such as a mityvac(sp?) or something like this if I were on a budget:
hand operated gas pump


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Re: Fatal explosion when replacing fuel pump [Re: Lolvoguy] #5413696 04/26/20 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Lolvoguy
Anyone who uses a cheap electric fuel pump of the aforementioned quality can only expect favorable results.
Similar to those who use old concrete blocks to suspend a car while working underneath.


What's wrong with concrete blocks? I use them to support a vehicle on occasion. Or are you referring to the hollow cell cinder blocks?


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Originally Posted by 92saturnsl2
Originally Posted by Lolvoguy
Anyone who uses a cheap electric fuel pump of the aforementioned quality can only expect favorable results.
Similar to those who use old concrete blocks to suspend a car while working underneath.


What's wrong with concrete blocks? I use them to support a vehicle on occasion. Or are you referring to the hollow cell cinder blocks?

Too frangible.


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Re: Fatal explosion when replacing fuel pump [Re: wormwood1978] #5413716 04/26/20 12:54 PM
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I like DIY auto repair but I'm afraid to mess with the gas tank. That being said. I likely would have gotten the gas out of a tank with a small electric or battery operated pump and not thought too much of it.


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