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Tire Rotation interval #5408783 04/20/20 03:52 PM
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I notice that the Nissan Versa, it list rotation interval of 5,000 miles while the Subaru outback seems to indicate a rotation of 10,000 miles. Any idea why one car would double the interval of another? I guess in the past, I always rotated my tires every 2 oil change which was about 10,000 miles, so I am wondering 5,000 seemed a bit aggressive.

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5000 mile rotation does seem excessive, unless there is some anomaly with how the 4 tires are wearing. I'm one of the lucky people, my current P/U truck and past vehicles tires wear evenly side to side so I rotate once when the rear tires are down to 50% and then replace when all 4 are worn down to there safe limit. been working this way for 30+ years .

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I do a 5 tire rotation on my Rubicon every 5K. Does not cost me anything at DT so why not?


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I wasn't aware that any owner's manual listed tire rotation intervals.
If you have AWD rotation ought to be more frequent especially if you have traction control also in this case brake pad inspection ought to be more frequent.
The more frequent the rotation the more even the wear.

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I get free tire rotations every 6,000 miles but get it done every 5k to keep on an easy schedule. I like to replace all my tires at once so I want all to wear evenly.


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I rotate when the front to rear tread dept difference is ~ 2/32 which turns out to agree with my vehicles recommendation of 7,500 miles. Ed


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Every 5k for me, since i have it jacked up for oil change anyhow


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Ok,

I decided to check the tire sites, reasoning that tire manufacturer probably has restriction on tire rotation in regards to warranty. I check the Goodyear site, and they said they recommend every 3,000 to 6,000 miles. Michelin's site said 6,000 to 8,000. Not sure why there is such a difference. Maybe 5,000 miles is not so far fetch after all.

Alternate question, I notice that the manual often say 5,000 miles or every 6 months. Let's say you drive less than 1,000 miles a year (suppose you are retired or the car is only use for weekends). Do you actually rotate the tire when at 6 months mark even though you may have driven only 500 miles? I was curious about the rationale of that recommendation.

Paul

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I've made it a habit of looking at the tread a few times a year. In between that, the dealer that performs the LOF on my cars typically checks them or as a matter of "business practice" recommends they be rotated.
Going by the book may be a simple way of remembering or keeping track but I just don't believe it equates to real world. We all experience too many variables for ne size fits all and tires come in different compounds for wear and tire life.
Where we live, how we drive, how well monitor air pressure, alignment issues, how the roads are where we live and drive, how many miles a year....

I do believe it's really as simple just looking at the tire wear and tread depth, even or uneven etc.... 5000 to 7000 miles maybe ? That's once a year for me.

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Ok,

I decided to check the tire sites, reasoning that tire manufacturer probably has restriction on tire rotation in regards to warranty. I check the Goodyear site, and they said they recommend every 3,000 to 6,000 miles. Michelin's site said 6,000 to 8,000. Not sure why there is such a difference. Maybe 5,000 miles is not so far fetch after all.

Alternate question, I notice that the manual often say 5,000 miles or every 6 months. Let's say you drive less than 1,000 miles a year (suppose you are retired or the car is only use for weekends). Do you actually rotate the tire when at 6 months mark even though you may have driven only 500 miles? I was curious about the rationale of that recommendation.

Paul


No. Miles would be the measure. thumbsup
If tires get old, even if not driven many miles, rubber and side walls deteriorate and it's an important safety issue so just realize it's best to visually inspect them a few times a year and keep tabs on them or ask a professional if in doubt. smile

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Every 5k for me, since i have it jacked up for oil change anyhow


THIS ^ Smart and simple.

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Re: Tire Rotation interval [Re: Paul_Siu] #5409220 04/21/20 05:06 AM
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Every 5000 miles is what I do to the 4 that I maintain.


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Originally Posted by Paul_Siu
Ok,

I decided to check the tire sites, reasoning that tire manufacturer probably has restriction on tire rotation in regards to warranty. I check the Goodyear site, and they said they recommend every 3,000 to 6,000 miles. Michelin's site said 6,000 to 8,000. Not sure why there is such a difference. Maybe 5,000 miles is not so far fetch after all.

Alternate question, I notice that the manual often say 5,000 miles or every 6 months. Let's say you drive less than 1,000 miles a year (suppose you are retired or the car is only use for weekends). Do you actually rotate the tire when at 6 months mark even though you may have driven only 500 miles? I was curious about the rationale of that recommendation.

Paul


Paul,

I think you are trying to overcomplicate things. Too frequent a tire rotation only wastes time and money.

The real danger is not often enough. My experience says that beyond 10K miles, there is a risk of developing permanent irregular wear - that is, irregular wear so bad (with its vibration and noise), that rotating the tires can't wear the old pattern off enough to eliminate the noise/vibration.


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I think it also depends on who does the rotations and the cost. I change my own oil every 5000 km, and I am doing it on a hoist at work. I like to let the oil drain for an hour or so, so instead of just sitting there doing nothing, I will pull the wheels off, check the balance and rotate them back onto the car. Also allows me to inspect the brakes properly. So, rotating them every 5000 km does not cost me any extra money or time. My tires are always perfectly evenly worn at all four corners, well, except for the 1 series because it has staggered tires front/rear. On that car I will rotate left-right every oil change.


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I think I saw in an owners’ manual a range of 5000-8000 miles. My Saturn used to go about 6000 a year so I rotated every other oil change once a year. Tire wear on all four was close enough when time to replace them.


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If you don't change tires for winter then just do rotations every second oil change.
If you change for winter - rotations can be done during the tire changes and depending on mileage driven in between changes you can do another rotation/s in between.


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Re: Tire Rotation interval [Re: Paul_Siu] #5409464 04/21/20 11:51 AM
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I poked around and the only thing I can see about time-based tire changes is from a dealer posting that said that tire should be swapped every year because one set of tire get extra weight and should be swapped out. I don't find that reasoning to be sound, so I would ignore it.

I think the confusion for me was the old advise that you should rotate your tire after every other oil change. However, that was in the old days when you had to change your oil every 3,000 miles so your tire got rotated at 6,000 miles, which is within the range. Now oil change is every 5K-6K, so tire swap every oil change it is.

Paul

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