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Cheapest route to a high performance car? #5407810 04/19/20 01:20 PM
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I'm talking something that will go and stop like a race car. Back in my day it was a early Fox body Mustang due to the short wheelbase and huge aftermarket for suspension, brakes, and Small Block Ford parts. Is that still the case?


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Re: Cheapest route to a high performance car? [Re: IMSA_Racing_Fan] #5407819 04/19/20 01:34 PM
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Well there's the AMG line. Some like the E55 AMG as you can do things to it more easily than the E63. Now it's basically tuning.

For pure 0-60 speeds, it's probably hard to find much that can beat a Tesla.

Re: Cheapest route to a high performance car? [Re: IMSA_Racing_Fan] #5407825 04/19/20 01:40 PM
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I always heard a stripped down bottom of the line Mustang GT was the best bang for your buck.


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Re: Cheapest route to a high performance car? [Re: Wolf359] #5407827 04/19/20 01:41 PM
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These are fine but not exactly what I have in mind.


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Re: Cheapest route to a high performance car? [Re: IMSA_Racing_Fan] #5407834 04/19/20 01:46 PM
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What do you consider a "race car"?

Any car can be raced, some are just better (better acceleration, handling, braking, fun to drive) than others.

Re: Cheapest route to a high performance car? [Re: IMSA_Racing_Fan] #5407837 04/19/20 01:52 PM
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High performance isn't cheap.


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Re: Cheapest route to a high performance car? [Re: IMSA_Racing_Fan] #5407855 04/19/20 02:11 PM
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If a fox body mustang is what you want, then that's what you should get.

There are faster cars, and there are slower cars. Buy whatever satisfies the urge, I say.

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Fox bodies have terrible handling.

I would say maybe a factory 5 kit.

Buy one from some guy who got stared and couldn't finish.

Otherwise an older lotus or Caterham or Vette.

On the other hand the best handling 1+1/2 tonne street car I've driven was a 90's Datsun 300ZX

That would be under 7 grand for a nice example.



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Re: Cheapest route to a high performance car? [Re: IMSA_Racing_Fan] #5407859 04/19/20 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by IMSA_Racing_Fan
I'm talking something that will go and stop like a race car. Back in my day it was a early Fox body Mustang due to the short wheelbase and huge aftermarket for suspension, brakes, and Small Block Ford parts. Is that still the case?

It is still the case. Just move to the 2005 and up Mustang, 3 valve V-8. Absolutely a ton of parts available. 15 years old now, so cheap. 0-60 in 5.4 seconds. 13.6 quarter mile - stock

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/ford/mustang/2005/2005-ford-mustang-gt/


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Probably the closest is a C5 Corvette. For all it's shortcomings, it's still capable of turning great lap times. One need only use good tires, have a good alignment and the right brake pads. Making a fox body Mustang beat that is more expensive than an old C5's purchase price. However, they are rather numb, not really lively, and don't have the super fun on the street "feel" of a well tuned BMW E36.

The newer Ecoboost Mustangs can be found for reasonable prices too, and they "tune" very well and will run 12's with very little work.

However, after all is said and done, a turbocharged Miata, done correctly, is amazingly hard to beat. High 11's in the 1/4, 165mph, and more fun than anything short of a dedicated track car.

My old turbo Miata's engine bay.

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Re: Cheapest route to a high performance car? [Re: IMSA_Racing_Fan] #5407867 04/19/20 02:23 PM
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Very nice Miata engine, love all the attention to detail like foam trim on air box to keep the heat out.

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Originally Posted by ARCOgraphite
Fox bodies have terrible handling.

I would say maybe a factory 5 kit.



Maybe stock but the the Fox platform has huge support. Dial in a MM kit and he's good.
My best friend is building a FF Daytona. $70K when he's done. Not exactly cheap to compete.



I'm working with my dealer now on a '16 Mustang GT with 10K miles for $24K. It's a freakn' awesome deal. I don't "need" it but am working the numbers.
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Mustangs just don't satisfy in the end.

Had many of them.

All those ponys are massive draught horses now.

Bmw M roadster satisfy as a sports car.


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Originally Posted by Zaedock

I'm working with my dealer now on a '16 Mustang GT with 10K miles for $24K. It's a freakn' awesome deal. I don't "need" it but am working the numbers.
Take advantage of the virus market if you can.


I just saw this one. Carfax looks clean.



But how about the Exploding Chinese manual transmission. I drove a Camaro with one of those a couple years ago - it was terrible. I couldn't even do a easy 1-2 shift. Brand new car.

2016 GT for sale in Massachusetts


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