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Anyone ‘excited’ for API SP/GF-6? #5397894 04/08/20 10:30 PM
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I mean, it’s kinda why we are here...it is the first ‘new’ API spec in 10 years.

Do you think SP oils will look a lot different than SN oils?

Will it show much better wear results? Will there be some brand-new additive they use?

Bring slightly cynical, I think they will look the exact same as SN-plus oils...I think we have come almost as far as we can with additive tech, and the parameters are still the same (zinc and phos at 800ppm, for example, moly over sorta 200ppm doesn’t help..etc)

Discuss!


2010 Kia Soul 2U - 2.0L I-4, auto; 153k miles.
Castrol GTX 5W-20; Motomaster MPH 9688

2009 Pontiac G5 - 2.2 I-4, auto, 121k miles.
Oil/filter TBD
Re: Anyone ‘excited’ for API SP/GF-6? [Re: addyguy] #5397899 04/08/20 10:33 PM
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Yep. Heard they also protects/prevent timing chain wear better than the GF-5 oils.

Re: Anyone ‘excited’ for API SP/GF-6? [Re: addyguy] #5397914 04/08/20 10:42 PM
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Yep there should be a lot of other good oils on close out!


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In: Pennzoil Platinum HM 5W-20 ST 4386
2006 Duramax 77077
Out: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73909
In: Rotella Dino PH9100 11-3-19
Re: Anyone ‘excited’ for API SP/GF-6? [Re: addyguy] #5397965 04/09/20 12:09 AM
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Will they have to have 75% group 3+ leading to still more marketing branding differentiation?

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Re: Anyone ‘excited’ for API SP/GF-6? [Re: addyguy] #5397981 04/09/20 01:58 AM
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Wonder if most all oils will be synthetic (full)


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2019 Chevrolet Equinox LS
2006 Chevrolet Cobalt LS
2004 Chevrolet Cavalier (project)

Re: Anyone ‘excited’ for API SP/GF-6? [Re: addyguy] #5397982 04/09/20 02:08 AM
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Nope, don't want any of that newfangled oily water anywhere near my engines.


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Re: Anyone ‘excited’ for API SP/GF-6? [Re: addyguy] #5397991 04/09/20 02:48 AM
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I will "Discuss" grin2

I never buy any first time thing to the market for example any "totally redesigned" cars ... If this oil is out for 2-3 years and no engine blows up and/or if no SP+ enhancement comes out, then I may consider. Assuming the oil meets my viscosity, hths, Noack, etc. requirements.

I am still considering a Castrol a3/b4 SL for a relatively new car so I don't care about Sx.

Re: Anyone ‘excited’ for API SP/GF-6? [Re: addyguy] #5397994 04/09/20 03:19 AM
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I am more excited about the great deals that should happen to clear out of GF-5 stock. Many oil companies are stating that they expect their existing formulations to already meet GF-6 on launch. Whether that is true is up for debate.

Re: Anyone ‘excited’ for API SP/GF-6? [Re: FordCapriDriver] #5398011 04/09/20 05:52 AM
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*No 0W20 for you ?
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Nope, don't want any of that newfangled oily water anywhere near my engines.


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Re: Anyone ‘excited’ for API SP/GF-6? [Re: addyguy] #5398085 04/09/20 08:07 AM
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Yep, I'm eager to begin reading and testing the new chapters. Kind' wish I didn't still have 3 five quart jugs of SN Plus in stash..
That means I'm currently all set until November at-least..... maybe even April 2021. We don't drive as much anymore. Our oil changes are less frequent, even at 4-5k OCIs.


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2020 Kia Soul X-Line 2.0 MPI - a 50-50 blend of Pennzoil Platinum HM & Pennzoil Gold 5w30 // AC Delco PF1127 Ecore




Re: Anyone ‘excited’ for API SP/GF-6? [Re: addyguy] #5398188 04/09/20 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by addguyy
I think we have come almost as far as we can with additive tech

Seems like oil is always playing catch up as engines change. While I don't think were done with additive tech I do think it will slow down even more.

Originally Posted by addguyy
and the parameters are still the same (zinc and phos at 800ppm, for example, moly over sorta 200ppm doesn’t help..etc)

Discuss!

You should check out the VOA section over the last couple years, hardly any SN/+ oils have those levels of ZDDP any more. This is one reason I like Valvoline Advanced.


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Re: Anyone ‘excited’ for API SP/GF-6? [Re: addyguy] #5398303 04/09/20 10:53 AM
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Re: Anyone ‘excited’ for API SP/GF-6? [Re: addyguy] #5398374 04/09/20 11:56 AM
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Years ago there was a BITOG rush to snap up all the SL oil before it was replaced by SM; in retrospect it seems foolish

Probably the same with SP; SN and + seems to be a fantastic fit for my cars but i have to issue just using the next spec. Gone are the high zinc days for most of us...

"I need high zinc" is throw onto the pile of "what base oil" for many of us; it just doesn't matter for a majority of new vehicles

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2007 Yaris 108K ATM
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Re: Anyone ‘excited’ for API SP/GF-6? [Re: double vanos] #5398378 04/09/20 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by double vanos




My guess is that if anyone has bought oil recently they may already have the new spec. The companies cannot label it as such until the specified date.


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Re: Anyone ‘excited’ for API SP/GF-6? [Re: double vanos] #5398462 04/09/20 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by double vanos


Just like Pennzoil Plat SN, it is identical to SN+. Makes people feel good to see S(X) on the label, but that's all that is new about it, the label. For this oil.

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