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Why is exhaust stupid expensive? #5397615 04/08/20 05:34 PM
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A 5 foot length of 2 1/2 inch stainless steel pipe is $50 retail yet a exhaust system cost almost $1,800!
https://www.amazon.com/Stainless-Steel-Straight-Exhaust-Pipe/dp/B074XJN6M7

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Re: Why is exhaust stupid expensive? [Re: IMSA_Racing_Fan] #5397618 04/08/20 05:37 PM
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Because those fancy ones are generally made different than the cheapo ones.
1) better grade stainless steel than the stuff you priced out
2) handmade


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Re: Why is exhaust stupid expensive? [Re: IMSA_Racing_Fan] #5397619 04/08/20 05:37 PM
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Yep, a little high. But is this stainless steel the same 409 SS that the OE's use? Then throw in all the fitting that has been done. Now bend all the pipes. Add the mufflers in, plus all the clamps etc. Not that far out of line.


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Re: Why is exhaust stupid expensive? [Re: oldhp] #5397624 04/08/20 05:43 PM
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I see a total of 6 bends, and mild ones at that. Equal length headers I can see as those are super labor intensive.
Edit: 8 if you count the tips.
Me thinks because it says "Cadillac CTS-V" on it.

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Re: Why is exhaust stupid expensive? [Re: IMSA_Racing_Fan] #5397626 04/08/20 05:45 PM
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They've been getting to you like this for years just because they can.


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Re: Why is exhaust stupid expensive? [Re: IMSA_Racing_Fan] #5397630 04/08/20 05:49 PM
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Imagine spending $1,800 + installation on your slammed ultimate ride then crushing it on a dip in the road.


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Re: Why is exhaust stupid expensive? [Re: IMSA_Racing_Fan] #5397633 04/08/20 05:54 PM
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I have a sedan, I gutted the front cats and picked up all the extra noise I wanted. Rear cats are still intact, no smell.

Stock system already has a crossover in it, maybe just do mufflers?


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Re: Why is exhaust stupid expensive? [Re: IMSA_Racing_Fan] #5397635 04/08/20 05:57 PM
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While the exhaust may or may not be worth the improvement I see lots more that a length of tube. What is the alloy of the $0.00 pipe?


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Mine is a base 3.0, AWD with a single, mma fiddin to cut two 5 inch holes in the rear facia and fabricate a dual exhaust with $25 ricer bombs.


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Does a higher quality stainless alloy make a difference on the dyno?


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Re: Why is exhaust stupid expensive? [Re: IMSA_Racing_Fan] #5397663 04/08/20 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by IMSA_Racing_Fan
A 5 foot length of 2 1/2 inch stainless steel pipe is $50 retail yet a exhaust system cost almost $1,800!

So it's expensive. Who cares???
If you don't like it, don't buy it.
There's no sense in bellyaching about it.

They are expensive because the market will bear it.

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You are paying the Borla tax, but they are worth it. I have the ATAK catback on my Mustang and it sounds incredible.


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Re: Why is exhaust stupid expensive? [Re: IMSA_Racing_Fan] #5397694 04/08/20 06:52 PM
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Because of production volume. They probably only make 10 at a time when the inventory is down to 2, then sit there for 1 year before they are all sold.

The same reason universal cat is only 1/3 to 1/2 the price of a direct fit cat. Those extra stainless steel, flange, and bending won't cost as much as the honey comb and the platinum inside.


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Think it was an '88 Festiva. Meineke would just bend some pipe. Midas had stuff pre-made and four times as much money.


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Because people pay that price. If people didn't buy it then they wouldn't set that pricing.


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