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cut ADBV in Mobil1 oil filter #5397401 04/08/20 12:55 PM
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I usually use Toyota filters but I was out, and did not want to wait for delivery so picked up a M1 filter from Wally World at about twice the price.

I was putting fresh oil on the gasket and noticed the anti drain back valve had a pretty obvious cut in it,

not having another filter on hand i put it on any way and then E-mailed mobil one customer service through their website Monday, politely asking them to replace the defective oil filter, with such a premium cost filter I think I should have a working ADBV to keep oil in the oil galleys on shutdown.

I am getting annoyed as so far no one has returned my message, I can't say a filter brand is "bad" from one defect, but the lack of response is annoying an speaks to a company. I am hoping they quarantined and not able to access customer service system from home.


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Re: cut ADBV in Mobil1 oil filter [Re: RavenTai] #5397403 04/08/20 01:01 PM
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Right now you may have difficulty reaching customer service at many places, it took days for Walmart to respond to my customer service emails recently.

Re: cut ADBV in Mobil1 oil filter [Re: RavenTai] #5397420 04/08/20 01:32 PM
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My goodness a Mobilator!


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Re: cut ADBV in Mobil1 oil filter [Re: RavenTai] #5397433 04/08/20 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by RavenTai
...with such a premium cost filter I think I should have a working ADBV to keep oil in the oil galleys on shutdown.

What makes you think it is not working?

Re: cut ADBV in Mobil1 oil filter [Re: RavenTai] #5397444 04/08/20 02:06 PM
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Re: cut ADBV in Mobil1 oil filter [Re: Imp4] #5397476 04/08/20 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Imp4
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...with such a premium cost filter I think I should have a working ADBV to keep oil in the oil galleys on shutdown.

What makes you think it is not working?


ADBV is basically a check valve, when the engine stops and along with it oil flow the adbv closes and prevents reverse flow, keeping oil trapped in the oil galleys for immediate flow on the next start.

If you look closely at the above picture you can see a deep cut in the ADBV, that would allow oil to revese flow back to the pan and on next start delay oil reaching the components potentially increasing engine wear.


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Re: cut ADBV in Mobil1 oil filter [Re: ZeeOSix] #5397477 04/08/20 02:50 PM
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Very, so this is not just a one off problem?


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Re: cut ADBV in Mobil1 oil filter [Re: RavenTai] #5397523 04/08/20 04:02 PM
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I think Mann-Hummel makes these now, right, they also own Puralator and 53' Stude recently cut open an older Bosch Premium that would've been made by Burralator, VIRGIN BOSCH 3400 CUT OPEN , and surprise, surprise, the ADBV had cuts in it from the non-deburred tapping plate.

Re: cut ADBV in Mobil1 oil filter [Re: RavenTai] #5397543 04/08/20 04:19 PM
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Take it back to WM and exchange it for something else! The new Fram Extra Guard 10,000 mile with silicone ADBV gets my vote, and TWO would probably cost less than that Mobil 1!


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Man all y'all trying to call my a liar. LOOK AT THAT!

Re: cut ADBV in Mobil1 oil filter [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #5397574 04/08/20 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyJohnson
My goodness a Mobilator!



Whats a mobilator? mobile re-branded puralator?

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Re: cut ADBV in Mobil1 oil filter [Re: RavenTai] #5397580 04/08/20 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RavenTai
Originally Posted by JohnnyJohnson
My goodness a Mobilator!

Whats a mobilator? mobile re-branded puralator?


A Mobil filter with issues.

Re: cut ADBV in Mobil1 oil filter [Re: ZeeOSix] #5397653 04/08/20 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Originally Posted by RavenTai
Originally Posted by JohnnyJohnson
My goodness a Mobilator!

Whats a mobilator? mobile re-branded puralator?


A Mobil filter with issues.


thumbsup Yep seriously everyone makes
a few Lators!

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Re: cut ADBV in Mobil1 oil filter [Re: RavenTai] #5397673 04/08/20 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RavenTai
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...with such a premium cost filter I think I should have a working ADBV to keep oil in the oil galleys on shutdown.

What makes you think it is not working?


ADBV is basically a check valve, when the engine stops and along with it oil flow the adbv closes and prevents reverse flow, keeping oil trapped in the oil galleys for immediate flow on the next start.

If you look closely at the above picture you can see a deep cut in the ADBV, that would allow oil to revese flow back to the pan and on next start delay oil reaching the components potentially increasing engine wear.

I see the cut.
I do not know if it is deep.
Neither do you.
I also do not know if the adbv is working properly with this condition.
Neither do you.

That was my only point.

Re: cut ADBV in Mobil1 oil filter [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #5397723 04/08/20 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyJohnson
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Originally Posted by RavenTai
Originally Posted by JohnnyJohnson
My goodness a Mobilator!

Whats a mobilator? mobile re-branded puralator?


A Mobil filter with issues.


thumbsup Yep seriously everyone makes
a few Lators!

Mann & Hummel makes the original, and best WORST! It's no accident they're making this new batch of M1 filters with issues.


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