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Re: OEM parts... what does it mean to you? [Re: atikovi] #5396764 04/07/20 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by atikovi
Same parts as what the car came with from the factory.


Uh, yes.

That's what it means to me and atikovi. You don't have to agree. You just have your own definition.

That's what it means to me. You can't prove me wrong as this is what I mean when I say it. Unless you are some kind of mind reader.

For clarification, Toyota has 2 lines of brake pads. A cheap line to compete with cheap pads like you buy in places other than Toyota/Lexus and a primo line like came on your car when it was new.
The cheap line is not OEM even though it comes in a Toyota box.






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Re: OEM parts... what does it mean to you? [Re: brages] #5396799 04/07/20 08:04 PM
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Here is how FCP Euro defines it: link


OEM parts are produced by a manufacturer that meets the high quality standards and produces at least one part for a vehicle manufacturer.

Based on this definition, because Febi makes a part for a car manufacturer, any Febi part for any car is an "OEM" part.

Re: OEM parts... what does it mean to you? [Re: brages] #5396811 04/07/20 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by brages
Here is how FCP Euro defines it: link


OEM parts are produced by a manufacturer that meets the high quality standards and produces at least one part for a vehicle manufacturer.

Based on this definition, because Febi makes a part for a car manufacturer, any Febi part for any car is an "OEM" part.


Again, confusion. Only the parts that Febi makes that the manufacturer uses on the production line would be called an "OEM" part. Now FCP Euro sells parts so they may not have the most impartial definition.

Re: OEM parts... what does it mean to you? [Re: Farnsworth] #5396825 04/07/20 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Farnsworth
My guesses:
OE- original equipment part identical to what was delivered with the car new. Like Toyota brand
OES- original equipment supplier, or made to OE standard, don't know which. Beck Arnley may be an example.
OEM- original equipment manufacturer, they make the OE and their own version. Like Denso versus Toyota Denso.

I guess someone else said about the same.

Pretty much this.


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Re: OEM parts... what does it mean to you? [Re: brages] #5396826 04/07/20 08:38 PM
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Here is another part seller with a similar definition of "OEM": http://www.bmwpnpc.com/faq/OE-OEM-OES-Aftermarket-BMW-Parts.htm

Re: OEM parts... what does it mean to you? [Re: brages] #5396828 04/07/20 08:39 PM
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OEM. parts - sometimes I get them. Some aftermarket parts are better than OEM. Some aftermarket are the same and way cheaper. Case in point, neighbor paid about $30 for Cadillac OEM thermostat from the dealer. Had the same P/N as one from the from the local parts store. Made by the same company. You just need to know what you are buying.

I bought new after market points, condenser and rotor for my Datsun before taking cross country trip. The rotor was made somewhere across the Pacific. It crapped out in the middle of the night behind the beyond. After that I always went Nippon Denso no matter the cost. I steer away from anything made in China.

Re: OEM parts... what does it mean to you? [Re: brages] #5396851 04/07/20 08:58 PM
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Team, OEM is a type of supplier for components used or sold by another company (VAR).
OEM parts generally refer to a part made for a specific VAR, based on the VAR's specification.

As The Critic pointed out, Toyota did not make the brake pads for my GS350 F Sport.
OEM parts were used in the manufacture of the car and Lexus can sell me OEM parts to replace worn pads under their name.
Both are OEM parts; they are not necessarily made by a single supplier but adhere to Toyota's specification for fit, form and function.
That specification very well may change over time.

Another example is, BMW is the OEM for Toyota Supra engines.

In the business of manufacturing we use strict definitions for these terms.
There are college degrees in Supply Chain Management.

OEM (Original equipment manufacturer) The original manufacturer of a product that may be sold or marketed by another company.


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Re: OEM parts... what does it mean to you? [Re: brages] #5396954 04/07/20 11:53 PM
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I won't even dare to ask what a "Genuine" part means.

Re: OEM parts... what does it mean to you? [Re: brages] #5396959 04/07/20 11:59 PM
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Buying “OEM” at the dealer can mean there’s a warranty on certain parts.


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Re: OEM parts... what does it mean to you? [Re: The Critic] #5397035 04/08/20 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by The Critic
Example - Rear Brake Pads for a 10-15 RX350/11-18 Sienna. Part #04466-0E010.

Genuine: Brake Pads sold in a red toyota box. The pads are made by Akebono in Japan.

OE: Hypothetically, if Akebono sold the exact-same formula in their own box, which does not happen.

OES: Toyota's service line replacement for this application, which is #04466-AZ109. These pads are acceptable for use during customer-pay brake jobs but are actually made by Advics. The formula is slightly different than what the car is originally equipped with.

OEM: Any set of brake pads made by Akebono, even if they are not the same formula as the pads that are sold in the Toyota. For example, Akebono Proact pads would qualify as "OEM" pads for this application since Akebono was the original supplier, even though the ProACT is very different than the pads that Akebono supplied to Toyota.

Originally Posted by atikovi
Same parts as what the car came with from the factory.

Nope.



What he said. Very well put. OEM does not mean what came on new vehicle only made by them. OES is service parts which may or may not be the same. i have worked for several auto parts manufacturers including Akebono and their service parts are not the same and are acceptable to a lower standard. The shop mechanics will make them work if fit is not as good. Some union factory workers will not lift an extra finger beyond normal to make it work so require less variation.


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Re: OEM parts... what does it mean to you? [Re: double vanos] #5397063 04/08/20 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by double vanos
Buying “OEM” at the dealer can mean there’s a warranty on certain parts.


Many aftermarket parts are lifetime warranted...

Re: OEM parts... what does it mean to you? [Re: atikovi] #5399070 04/10/20 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by atikovi
Same parts as what the car came with from the factory.


Sort of I suppose. If you want an OEM restore do you still put 14 inch rims with hubcaps and drum brakes on all 4 wheels?

What about a paint job, should it be to the standards of auto paints jobs as they rolled off of the factory floor, or do you want something better and more consistent with today's standards?

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Originally Posted by atikovi
Same parts as what the car came with from the factory.


Sort of I suppose. If you want an OEM restore do you still put 14 inch rims with hubcaps and drum brakes on all 4 wheels?


Well yes, that's pretty much the definition of a restoration. Otherwise it's a restomod or hotrod. And paint isn't like a part that you bolt or weld on anymore than fluids or chemicals. You wouldn't use SA grade oil, 78 octane gas or alcohol coolant in an old car today, restored or not.

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I prefer to use the definitions by FCPEuro parts house.

OEM: Makes parts for automakers, but is not under contract to make the part in question.
OE: Makes the part for the automaker but the automaker insignia is sanded off or omitted because the part is sold as branded by the manufacture of the part rather than the automaker. (Ex, Bosch makes spark plugs with the BMW logo on it and one with out. It's the same plug).


Take spark plugs on my 435i.

Genuine: BMW branded made by Bosch.
OE: Bosch
OEM: NGK

BMW has used NGK plugs on some engines and Bosch on other. My engine came with Bosch plugs so for my application NGK plugs would be the OEM part. Now sometimes it can get a little weird with ignition coils. I've seen BMW switch suppliers during a model year or year to year.

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Oftentimes I prefer parts from factory packaging. No rational rationale but just makes me feel better.
Many have hologram seals ostensibly to keep honest people honest.

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