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Shell oil help #5395434 04/06/20 12:18 PM
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Hi,
What is the diffrence between Shell helix ultra 5w40 and Shell helix ultra 5w40 ( with Diesel sign on it).
For my car is recommended one without diesel sign, but I excidently bought one with diesel label. Also my car is diesel. Will It cause any problems ? Or can I use it without worries?

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In and of itself the word "diesel" doesn't mean much, what matters are the approvals and certifications. What is different between the two and what do you need? If both have what you require then either one is fine. If not, pick the one that has what you need.


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Re: Shell oil help [Re: kschachn] #5395447 04/06/20 12:34 PM
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As I know, my car needs 5w40 A3/B4 API CF both are that. But I wonder what means Diesel on package...

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Originally Posted by IvanPletex
As I know, my car needs 5w40 A3/B4 API CF both are that. But I wonder what means Diesel on package...

What licenses and approvals does each oil have?


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This is OEM oil sheet for my car.

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Re: Shell oil help [Re: IvanPletex] #5395466 04/06/20 12:56 PM
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On shell page, finder says for my car is shell helix ultra 5w40, as I said I bought shell helix ultra 5w40 (diesel). Who knows main diffrence between this two? Thanks.

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Originally Posted by IvanPletex
On shell page, finder says for my car is shell helix ultra 5w40, as I said I bought shell helix ultra 5w40 (diesel). Who knows main diffrence between this two? Thanks.

You were asking why one container says "diesel" and the other one does not. That specific question isn't related to what your car needs or requires.
The main difference is in the certifications, licenses or approvals each oil has or does not have.
If you post the list of the certifications, licenses or approvals each oil has or does not have then you will answer your question.


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Just guessing here, but what is the sulfated ash content of each? That MIGHT be the difference.

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https://www.shell.com/motorist/oils...y-synthetic/shell-helix-ultra-5w-40.html
API SN/CF; ACEA A3/B3, A3/B4; BMW LL-01; MB approval 229.5, 226.5; VW 502.00/505.00; Porsche A40; Renault RN0700, RN0710; PSA B71 2296, Ferrari. Meets the requirements of Fiat 9.55535-Z2 and Chrysler MS-10725

https://www.shell.com/motorist/oils...etic/shell-helix-ultra-diesel-5w-40.html
API CF; ACEA A3/B3, A3/B4; BMW LL-01; MB approval 229.5, 226.5; VW 505.00; Renault RN0710. Meets the requirements of Fiat 955535.Z2

UltraDiesel appears to be the same, but doesn't list some gas specs it already meets.


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Originally Posted by UG_Passat
https://www.shell.com/motorist/oils...y-synthetic/shell-helix-ultra-5w-40.html
API SN/CF; ACEA A3/B3, A3/B4; BMW LL-01; MB approval 229.5, 226.5; VW 502.00/505.00; Porsche A40; Renault RN0700, RN0710; PSA B71 2296, Ferrari. Meets the requirements of Fiat 9.55535-Z2 and Chrysler MS-10725

https://www.shell.com/motorist/oils...etic/shell-helix-ultra-diesel-5w-40.html
API CF; ACEA A3/B3, A3/B4; BMW LL-01; MB approval 229.5, 226.5; VW 505.00; Renault RN0710. Meets the requirements of Fiat 955535.Z2

UltraDiesel appears to be the same, but doesn't list some gas specs it already meets.

There you have it. An amazingly scant difference, considering the substance of those approvals.


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Additionaly....diesel version is usually more expensive for a few bucks for a jug...


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Probably actually the same oil just in different bottles, SHU 5W-40 is probably perfectly able to meet all those specs without a separate diesel version.


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