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What VPN do you Recommend? #5393815 04/04/20 06:39 PM
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I have been thinking about getting a VPN. Seems like a lot of differing information. Some are more private. Some are faster. Who can advise?


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Re: What VPN do you Recommend? [Re: Gebo] #5393818 04/04/20 06:43 PM
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Are you talking about a VPN to do general web surfing or a VPN to connect back to your home network?


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Re: What VPN do you Recommend? [Re: Gebo] #5393857 04/04/20 07:00 PM
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Gebo,

I have used ExpressVPN for four years now.

Zero issues, great interface with phone, iPad, and laptop. Solid customer service and support.

I believe it’s $99 per year for up to five devices connected simultaneously.

Are they perfect? Nope, but I’m a picky SOB and I’m not switching VPN providers.

Regardless of which VPN you choose, “free VPN” should never be an option.

Cheers!


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Re: What VPN do you Recommend? [Re: simple_gifts] #5393869 04/04/20 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by simple_gifts
Are you talking about a VPN to do general web surfing or a VPN to connect back to your home network?



General web surfing


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Re: What VPN do you Recommend? [Re: dkryan] #5393870 04/04/20 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by dkryan
Gebo,

I have used ExpressVPN for four years now.

Zero issues, great interface with phone, iPad, and laptop. Solid customer service and support.

I believe it’s $99 per year for up to five devices connected simultaneously.

Are they perfect? Nope, but I’m a picky SOB and I’m not switching VPN providers.

Regardless of which VPN you choose, “free VPN” should never be an option.

Cheers!


Do they offer something others don't? Wait, what I'm asking is why did you choose them over another service?


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Re: What VPN do you Recommend? [Re: Gebo] #5393873 04/04/20 07:09 PM
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Re: What VPN do you Recommend? [Re: Gebo] #5393885 04/04/20 07:16 PM
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Gebo,

Please check out Jackson_Slugger’s link. Self explanatory upon review.

Their current rating is solid and well-deserved, but please note that in 2016, they were good, but they earned their current rating because, like Startmail, they welcome constructive feedback and they’re always trying to improve their product and service.


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Re: What VPN do you Recommend? [Re: Gebo] #5393886 04/04/20 07:16 PM
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I use IPVanish. They offer special deals for new customers so look for the specials. So far so good almost a year. It does slow download speeds some probably 30% for me. I have 400 mbps. Can still stream movies normally. Sometimes during peak usage cable gets slower and with 3 kids and wife all downloading and watching youtube, etc. I will likely keep it and believe they all slow you down to some extent. What i really like about IPVanish is they do not keep and history so if someone forces them to provide history data they do not keep it so cannot. Not like I am doing anything I care about but just don't like all the tracking that's done.


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Re: What VPN do you Recommend? [Re: Gebo] #5393920 04/04/20 07:50 PM
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Okay,

I get the idea of a VPN to corporate network so I can get to the back office stuff.

Other than spoofing the BBC regarding my location, making them think I'm in the UK so I can get programming as if I was in the UK, I'm really not seeing the point of a VPN. Certainly not from a security standpoint.

We see these commercials about "Don't let the bad guys get your banking info..."

Well, it's not like my VPN provider has a connection into my bank's network. The VPN just changes the where my traffic enters the general public internet and goes to the bank and has all the same vulnerabilities as if the traffic came from my home, or mobile phone, or frankly, even that coffee shop connection. Unless I'm an idiot and not using an HTTPS connection to my bank, even the coffee shop free WiFi isn't really a problem.

If you want to spoof where you are, or you are connecting to your corporate network so you can get to back office servers, I'm not seeing the value proposition for a VPN when it comes to security.

Am I missing something here?


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Re: What VPN do you Recommend? [Re: javacontour] #5393927 04/04/20 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by javacontour
Okay,

I get the idea of a VPN to corporate network so I can get to the back office stuff.

Other than spoofing the BBC regarding my location, making them think I'm in the UK so I can get programming as if I was in the UK, I'm really not seeing the point of a VPN. Certainly not from a security standpoint.

We see these commercials about "Don't let the bad guys get your banking info..."

Well, it's not like my VPN provider has a connection into my bank's network. The VPN just changes the where my traffic enters the general public internet and goes to the bank and has all the same vulnerabilities as if the traffic came from my home, or mobile phone, or frankly, even that coffee shop connection. Unless I'm an idiot and not using an HTTPS connection to my bank, even the coffee shop free WiFi isn't really a problem.

If you want to spoof where you are, or you are connecting to your corporate network so you can get to back office servers, I'm not seeing the value proposition for a VPN when it comes to security.

Am I missing something here?


This is exactly right. A VPN for a home user is simply obscuring non-encrypted traffic and DNS queries from their ISP, that's it. You are just moving the egress point of that traffic from the WAN interface on your router to some virtual switch port on somebody else's hardware and assuming nobody is sniffing that traffic, versus the hops it traverses from your ISP-provided equipment to its destination. It does nothing to further improve traffic that is already end-to-end encrypted.


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Re: What VPN do you Recommend? [Re: Gebo] #5393930 04/04/20 08:12 PM
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I use PIA. If you torrent a VPN is a must.


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Re: What VPN do you Recommend? [Re: Gebo] #5393942 04/04/20 08:31 PM
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My use for VPN's is limited, my work blocks a lot of stuff on their wifi, so I can't view a lot of websites on my phone (like most online forums, including BITOG).
Using a VPN allows me to bypass that restriction since the work filters does not see the traffic as being from a blacklisted site.
Popular VPN's are blocked by many companies for this very reason though.
I had tried NordVPN but traffic through some of there servers were blocked. This is why it is important to use a VPN with a lot of servers in case one gets blacklisted.
A VPN will also "hide" from your ISP what sites you visit, and they sell that info to advertisers.

The problem with VPN's is your speed is reduced, sometimes by as much as 90%.

I use a company called "FastestVPN".
It is not the fastest, but does what I need it to do and was cheap (I got a "lifetime" subscription for like $20 2 years ago).
I rarely use it at home, my kids use it at school, and I use it at work.


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Re: What VPN do you Recommend? [Re: Gebo] #5393954 04/04/20 08:37 PM
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Cloudflare just launched their own VPN called Warp through the app for FREE.

Their app is called 1.1.1.1 (same as their DNS servers).

Blog post:
https://blog.cloudflare.com/1111-warp-better-vpn/

Re: What VPN do you Recommend? [Re: NYSteve] #5393959 04/04/20 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by NYSteve
Cloudflare just launched their own VPN
They announced it. They haven't actually launched anything yet.


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Re: What VPN do you Recommend? [Re: Gebo] #5393974 04/04/20 09:08 PM
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It seems crazy to me to ask about this topic in an oil oriented forum. Do you ask your proctologist for landscaping advice?

The answer is that it depends on your priority, whether it be low cost, or job security related, doing very controversial/illegal things, or paranoia, or P2P filesharing,

SO, you must confess to us your sins and then we absolve you. wink

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