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Heavy fuel oil: can we talk about it? #5387306 03/27/20 07:35 PM
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Good Evening BITOGERS smile

Pardon my ignorance on this topic. I know large cargo ships used this or use this as fuel. What other industries use it? If it is phased out as a fuel, what would be done with it? Just trying to learn. Already googled it also.


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Re: Heavy fuel oil: can we talk about it? [Re: 53' Stude] #5387310 03/27/20 07:37 PM
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Probably it will be refined into costlier products.


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Re: Heavy fuel oil: can we talk about it? [Re: 53' Stude] #5387321 03/27/20 07:48 PM
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I believe one option is asphalt production, freeing that oil for cracking and making higher end products.

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I know that it has been used in large commercial boilers and industrial boilers in the past. It has to go through a pre-heating stage in most cases before it is fired.
Was told that it was a real mess to work with.

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Originally Posted by Snagglefoot
I believe one option is asphalt production, freeing that oil for cracking and making higher end products.


Interesting, thank you for the info smile

Originally Posted by walterjay
I know that it has been used in large commercial boilers and industrial boilers in the past. It has to go through a pre-heating stage in most cases before it is fired.
Was told that it was a real mess to work with.



Yeah, its gotta be really, really hot to even be pumped


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It probably will not meet current EPA standards so I doubt it is used anymore.

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Originally Posted by walterjay
It probably will not meet current EPA standards so I doubt it is used anymore.



But, will it still be used worldwide or....?


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Before my time, the Fore River Shipyard had a cruiser contract canceled. They had already built the steam powered turbo generator power plant. A tanker trailer parked in an alley was the tank. The rig powered the AC welders for the entire yard until it closed 40 yrs later. Once a week the tanker trailer was topped off with oil so thick it had to be heated to be pumped. The old timers said the road tar looking stuff was Bunker C


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Re: Heavy fuel oil: can we talk about it? [Re: 53' Stude] #5387394 03/27/20 09:05 PM
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Delivered propane to a tannery that had a boiler that burned bunker c. It needed a propane pilot because the oil was so heavy it was difficult to light. The oil had a unique odor that the operator said it was basically crude with the sand removed.


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_oil
Bunker fuel or No. 6 Fuel oil


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Re: Heavy fuel oil: can we talk about it? [Re: 53' Stude] #5387441 03/27/20 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 53' Stude
Originally Posted by walterjay
It probably will not meet current EPA standards so I doubt it is used anymore.



But, will it still be used worldwide or....?


Yep - about 100% chance that it will still be used worldwide. Hard to regulate what other countries do...particularly when they're operating ships at sea...and those ships operate under flags of convenience. So, the owner of the ship can "shop" for a country in which to register that ship, and find a country that would like the registration revenue while not requiring any environmental regulation...compliance with labor laws...or whatever the owner is seeking to avoid.

Been happening for quite a while.

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Ships and old buildings in NYC used the stuff. I think the ships have agreed to no longer user it. Big push in cities to no longer user is for heating. You could see the smoke coming out when the boiler was running.

I think the word for this stuff is barely refined.


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I sawSomething recently on the discovery channel about great lakes shipping. Whatever ship was they were highlighting Used both. They would run it out at sea on heavy bunker oil and then were forced to switch within such a distance of land. I know they made a big fuss about a filtration rig that had to be cleaned regularly to keep it running. Also make a big deal about how much diesel he burned affect in their profit compared to the bunker oil.
They used to haul that stuff through the border when I was there and on a rainy damp night you could see the tank steaming down the road hauling it to the local Air Force Base, and prison to run the huge heat plants. One of the drivers once told me if it ever got broke down and they couldn’t get the tank to delivery fast enough it set up in the tank. When it did that they have to haul it all the way to New Jersey and put the tanker inside of some giant oven building so that you could get it hot enough to remove. It’s nasty stuff and burns really dirty , right off the end of the pollution scale. That’s probably why you don’t much see it anymore.

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It's roughly the equivalent of dino 5W30 run for 30K miles. LOL

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The driver that used to haul that hot tanker past me every day told me one day that one night he got a ticket for smoking in the cab. It was one of our more zealous stateys, the kind who would write his mother a ticket. The sad part is he never smoked hauling gasoline but with Bunker oil it meant nothing. He said it takes a torch to make that goo burn. Far more like road tar than fuel oil .

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