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Highest mileage vehicle gas engine with no oil filter? #5384987 03/24/20 09:26 PM
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In the mid-70s, I knew of a college friend that had a Volkswagen Beetle of the mid-60s with no oil filter and it recorded 150k.
Does anyone know of a similar vehicle / engine that wore no oil filter and lived a long-long life?


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Re: Highest mileage vehicle gas engine with no oil filter? [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5385001 03/24/20 09:49 PM
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My grandfather had many Straight 8 Buicks (248 & 320 cubic inch), They were good for 200,000 usually. But these were big low rpm engines. Bypass filter kits were available & sometimes dealer installed.

The Chevrolet 235 straight sixes were also pretty durable, A lot of them did have dealer installed bypass filters though.


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Re: Highest mileage vehicle gas engine with no oil filter? [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5385004 03/24/20 10:07 PM
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My dads 74 bug was running fine,not burning oil @145k when he totaled it.


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Re: Highest mileage vehicle gas engine with no oil filter? [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5385066 03/25/20 05:23 AM
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What was the change interval, every 2,000?


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Re: Highest mileage vehicle gas engine with no oil filter? [Re: Mainia] #5385072 03/25/20 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Mainia
What was the change interval, every 2,000?


I remember watching a Wheeler Dealer episode here in the UK where they restored an old Citreon van. The manufacturer specified intervals were 2000km. Some years I would have been doing weekly changes!

I wonder if you fitted EFI to one along with a full flow and bypass oil filter how far you could stretch out the intervals?


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Re: Highest mileage vehicle gas engine with no oil filter? [Re: Bailes1992] #5385175 03/25/20 08:09 AM
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The reason for the short OCI were these were air cooled (both the VW and some of the Citroen models), they beat the hades out of the oil with heat and the oil in those days wasn't very good to begin with.
Citroen had a sweet little 4 cyl air boxer as well as the 2cyl found in the 2CV, I liked it a lot more than the VW air boxer.

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Re: Highest mileage vehicle gas engine with no oil filter? [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5385217 03/25/20 08:55 AM
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Does the fact someone used a Fram oil filter qualify as "No Filter?"

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Just substitute whatever filter you don't like in place of "Fram" if you are bothered by my choice of filters.


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Re: Highest mileage vehicle gas engine with no oil filter? [Re: Trav] #5385219 03/25/20 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Trav
The reason for the short OCI were these were air cooled (both the VW and some of the Citroen models), they beat the hades out of the oil with heat and the oil in those days wasn't very good to begin with.
Citroen had a sweet little 4 cyl air boxer as well as the 2cyl found in the 2CV, I liked it a lot more than the VW air boxer.

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Re: Highest mileage vehicle gas engine with no oil filter? [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5385290 03/25/20 10:25 AM
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We bought a 69 Beetle in 73 and soon after discovered it needed a rebuild. I don't know the miles but it couldn't have been that many, I suspect lack of maintenance as mentioned above they were tough on oil. We had it for many, many years after that without issue, but I kept up on oil changes and used SAE 30 IIRC which is what it called for. Winter cold starts were brutal though it would start. I don't remember the miles on it after the rebuild either unfortunately, though I am certain it was way more than prior to it's rebuild.


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Re: Highest mileage vehicle gas engine with no oil filter? [Re: clinebarger] #5385317 03/25/20 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by clinebarger
My grandfather had many Straight 8 Buicks (248 & 320 cubic inch), They were good for 200,000 usually. But these were big low rpm engines. Bypass filter kits were available & sometimes dealer installed.

The Chevrolet 235 straight sixes were also pretty durable, A lot of them did have dealer installed bypass filters though.



Mom & Dad had a 1962 full size Chevy sedan with a 235 ci " hot water 6 " . I remember him changing oil and changing the filter ( cartilage filter ) in a metal housing w/ a removable lid . After he removed the old filter , he would swab out the old oil , from the metal container , with rags . A messy operation . I later gave him a " suction gun " , kind of like this ;

https://www.harborfreight.com/oil-suction-gun-95468.html


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Re: Highest mileage vehicle gas engine with no oil filter? [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5385377 03/25/20 11:53 AM
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My 1957 Chevy had no oil filter. It had a 235ci L6 and required a 2K oil change interval.

Re: Highest mileage vehicle gas engine with no oil filter? [Re: WyrTwister] #5385385 03/25/20 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by WyrTwister
Originally Posted by clinebarger
My grandfather had many Straight 8 Buicks (248 & 320 cubic inch), They were good for 200,000 usually. But these were big low rpm engines. Bypass filter kits were available & sometimes dealer installed.

The Chevrolet 235 straight sixes were also pretty durable, A lot of them did have dealer installed bypass filters though.



Mom & Dad had a 1962 full size Chevy sedan with a 235 ci " hot water 6 " . I remember him changing oil and changing the filter ( cartilage filter ) in a metal housing w/ a removable lid . After he removed the old filter , he would swab out the old oil , from the metal container , with rags . A messy operation . I later gave him a " suction gun " , kind of like this ;

https://www.harborfreight.com/oil-suction-gun-95468.html




On our family Chevy from the 50’s we had that same scenario. That container was leaned up against a fence post to drain and later on it was our job to clean it with newspaper and a bit of gasoline.

Afterwards it was about a hour of cursing as my Dad tried to put it back on while keeping that O ring set on the container lip.


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Re: Highest mileage vehicle gas engine with no oil filter? [Re: PimTac] #5385410 03/25/20 12:25 PM
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Oil bath air filters were the norm back then also.

My first car - a 55 Chev 265 V8 had no oil filter. It was an mid year dealer option. By 1956 they were standard on V8 but optional on the 6 cylinder. crzy

Re: Highest mileage vehicle gas engine with no oil filter? [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5385413 03/25/20 12:33 PM
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I had a 74 Super Beetle which dropped a valve at 90,000 miles. Not an oil related problem. Anyway I changed the oil every 1,800 miles or so. When the shop tore down my engine they said it looked like it was brand new except for the piston. Had I not lost a valve I think I could have easily gone 150K or more on that engine. Btw I used a steady diet of Havoline motor oil.

Re: Highest mileage vehicle gas engine with no oil filter? [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5385450 03/25/20 01:22 PM
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There are working Model T Fords at Greenfield Village in Dearborn, MI that are over 100 years old and must have many hundreds of thousands of miles on them.You can ride on one for a few $, or volunteer and become a driver. Amazing!

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