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How fussy are you when buying a new vehicle? #5384537 03/24/20 12:30 PM
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I told my dealer salesman I have seven important questions, prior to looking at our Kia and Hyundai.

1) Can I get my hand down into the engine - in a few places, to change things like hoses/clamps, sparkplugs, cables, hoses........etc.
2) Can I get the battery out, without taking 2-4 other items first?
3) Is the oil filter a canister or spin-on?..... I hate canisters.
4) Is the oil / filter change relatively easy?
5) Does the drivers seat go back far enough?
6) Does the dash - the part that's right in front of my drivers face, have a large half-moon plastic that sits above the rest of the dashboard and obstructs my view?
7) Does it have automatic headlights?..... a must-must have.

What must-haves did you insist on, when buying your vehicle?


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Re: How fussy are you when buying a new vehicle? [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5384549 03/24/20 12:35 PM
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If I found the perfect vehicle but it has a canister oil filter would I say no to the vehicle?

Separate your list into must-have and would-prefer-to-have


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Re: How fussy are you when buying a new vehicle? [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5384553 03/24/20 12:38 PM
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Re: How fussy are you when buying a new vehicle? [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5384557 03/24/20 12:43 PM
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My must have was a manual transmission and vinyl or leather seats


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Re: How fussy are you when buying a new vehicle? [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5384564 03/24/20 12:52 PM
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Well, I do have my own criteria which does include OTD price when things start to narrow down between competing models.

*Comfort-and not just for me but my passengers as well.
*Quiet & smooth riding.
*Good fuel economy that is at/near top of segment.
*Good view outward in all directions.
*Ease of general maintenance & repairs.
*Reliability reputation and resale value is lower on my list but is still important. Mainly because anything that I'd buy is pretty good anyway. I'm not buying highend vehicles with terrible reliability & poor resale.
*And though convoluted infotainment systems & the new sweet of safety systems are difficult to avoid, I am all for them but rate lower in my criteria.

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Re: How fussy are you when buying a new vehicle? [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5384566 03/24/20 12:53 PM
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Does it have a spare and a jack? (Cans of glop are a no go.)

Does it have a CVT? (CVT's are a no go.)

Does it have a turbo? (Turbos are probably a no go.)


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Re: How fussy are you when buying a new vehicle? [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5384573 03/24/20 01:04 PM
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1) Normally Aspirated Engine
2) Longitudinal Engine
3) RWD or AWD/4x4
4) Manual or if it must be a slushbox then one whose clutch packs aren't made of of glass and which has the ability to manually hold gears.
5) OEM engine parts are commonly available online and ideally shared between a few models.
6) High quality aftermarket parts are also readily available.
Leathers nice, but that can always be added down the road.

Re: How fussy are you when buying a new vehicle? [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5384584 03/24/20 01:16 PM
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Great thread.

In current times I research the vehicles on the internet including discussion forums of the particular brand and model and YouTube videos of reviews and driving tests.

Personally, I make sure the car fits me. I check the engine bay but that’s a habit going way back. There is not much I can do anymore either because of technology or my age.

Fuel economy is important. I went through the 70’s. No matter what the price of gasoline is, any savings is real money in the pocket.

Automatic transmission since my wife drives as well and she doesn’t drive stick.

As I’ve gotten older, comfort is higher on the list now.


Finally, since I did live through the Malaise era and saw and dealt with the junk coming out of Detroit at the time, my preference is Japanese. I’ve had absolutely no issues with any of my Japanese vehicles compared to US domestic made ones. That’s my personal view only.


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Re: How fussy are you when buying a new vehicle? [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5384599 03/24/20 01:32 PM
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Quality.


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Re: How fussy are you when buying a new vehicle? [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5384607 03/24/20 01:39 PM
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bought the last new car in 2011 that was my wife"s ford focus that's what she wanted ,checked the track record on those cars at the time and pulled the trigger..

Re: How fussy are you when buying a new vehicle? [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5384608 03/24/20 01:39 PM
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My must haves:

AWD
Quiet
Powerful
Fast
German/English

Re: How fussy are you when buying a new vehicle? [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5384614 03/24/20 01:48 PM
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Two main items:

1) A very comfortable seat
2) Excellent driving dynamics, including a responsive go-pedal (I'd call it a throttle, but some cars vary the flow of electrons)


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Re: How fussy are you when buying a new vehicle? [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5384617 03/24/20 01:50 PM
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My "must haves" can vary greatly depending on the deal.

I typically go for late model used that have hugely depreciated. It's just gotta be the particular style of vehicle I'm after.

Not interested in anything German/European simply due to lack of local repair options, should it be something I can't do myself.

No sunroof.

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Re: How fussy are you when buying a new vehicle? [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5384619 03/24/20 01:50 PM
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Triple, 5 of your questions are completely subjective, so of course any dealer can give you a yes on those. Stop answering your questions before giving them a chance to answer, make them "yes or no" questions, and then ask the dealer to prove all the "yes" answers. You'll get better answers this way, including on whether or not the dealer is going to take you seriously once you're an owner, based on their level of thoroughness and attention to your needs prior to purchase. Here's some example answers to your questions the way they're worded (parentheses are what's said in their heads LOL):

1. Sure, my hand fits in all those places (but yours may not!)
2. We offer free battery replacement when you buy the battery at our dealership.
3. Let me ask the service tech.
4. Sure, it's really easy, (our resident high-school dropout) porter does them in about 25 minutes, all day long.
5. Sure the seat goes back far enough. My wife (who is only 5'3") can't reach the wheel or the pedals with the seat all the way back.
6. Nope, nothing obstructs your view over the dash (when you raise the seat high enough).
7. Yep! (You just leave the headlight switch in the "on" position all the time, and whenever the key is on, the headlights are on.) Bingo!


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Originally Posted by SubieRubyRoo
Triple, 5 of your questions are completely subjective, so of course any dealer can give you a yes on those. Stop answering your questions before giving them a chance to answer, make them "yes or no" questions, and then ask the dealer to prove all the "yes" answers. You'll get better answers this way, including on whether or not the dealer is going to take you seriously once you're an owner, based on their level of thoroughness and attention to your needs prior to purchase. Here's some example answers to your questions the way they're worded (parentheses are what's said in their heads LOL):

1. Sure, my hand fits in all those places (but yours may not!)
2. We offer free battery replacement when you buy the battery at our dealership.
3. Let me ask the service tech.
4. Sure, it's really easy, (our resident high-school dropout) porter does them in about 25 minutes, all day long.
5. Sure the seat goes back far enough. My wife (who is only 5'3") can't reach the wheel or the pedals with the seat all the way back.
6. Nope, nothing obstructs your view over the dash (when you raise the seat high enough).
7. Yep! (You just leave the headlight switch in the "on" position all the time, and whenever the key is on, the headlights are on.) Bingo!

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