Recent Topics
charge 12v truck batter with more or less amps?
by apollo18 - 06/01/20 02:10 PM
Wash and wax in one
by rrretiree7 - 06/01/20 02:08 PM
$99 fair for wheel balance & front alignment?
by mclasser - 06/01/20 01:34 PM
Help me fix this 2001 YZF 600R
by Kurtatron - 06/01/20 12:29 PM
Super Auto filter
by cknight49090 - 06/01/20 12:20 PM
Shopping for New Generator
by doolah02 - 06/01/20 12:02 PM
Horsepower in Various Modes
by Al - 06/01/20 11:39 AM
ATF Flush vs Drain and Fill
by diyjake - 06/01/20 11:24 AM
Is Your Vehicle Deadly?
by SubLGT - 06/01/20 11:02 AM
Question on the bottom of bottle with Penz Platinum
by babyivan - 06/01/20 10:55 AM
Used Mitsubishi Lancer prices
by 97prizm - 06/01/20 10:32 AM
Which oil is the better quality
by galaxy333 - 06/01/20 09:57 AM
"Boutique" Brands
by buster - 06/01/20 09:15 AM
CASTROL Edge 5w20 or EP 5w20
by 53' Stude - 06/01/20 09:09 AM
BT Oil
by js1956 - 06/01/20 09:00 AM
How to Properly Read a Dipstick
by Gebo - 06/01/20 07:59 AM
Why did some older cars have + grounded systems?
by JLawrence08648 - 06/01/20 07:39 AM
Newest Members
chapys, DaaBoss, C6H8O7, Jcvjr, Haywood
71590 Registered Users
Who's Online Now
95 registered members (2015_PSD, 830Lee, aquariuscsm, Astro_Guy, 86cutlass307, 2004tdigls, 11 invisible), 2,662 guests, and 36 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums67
Topics306,129
Posts5,286,999
Members71,590
Most Online4,538
Jan 20th, 2020
Donate to BITOG
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 3 of 3 1 2 3
Re: Anyone Own a BMW 5-Series Wagon? [Re: john_pifer] #5382040 03/21/20 11:21 AM
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 4,122
G
gman2304 Online Content
Online Content
G
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 4,122
I would love to own a euro wagon. I’ve considered the BMW, MB, Volvo, even the Saab. Alas, the potential for expen$ive repairs if it breaks keeps me away. blush

Re: Anyone Own a BMW 5-Series Wagon? [Re: john_pifer] #5382057 03/21/20 11:33 AM
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 277
J
JEL01 Online Content
Online Content
J
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 277
I have not but sure would love an E39 wagon

I had an E34 525i years ago, however


Cars I maintain:
02 Mercedes CLK430
09 Honda Accord V6
13 Lexus RX350 AWD
02 Toyota Tundra 4x4
18 Lexus GX460
Re: Anyone Own a BMW 5-Series Wagon? [Re: john_pifer] #5382151 03/21/20 01:49 PM
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 3,066
J
john_pifer Offline OP
OP Offline
J
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 3,066
RWD, with the availability of a great engine (preferably I-6 of at least 3 liters displacement), manual transmission, good chassis, steering and handling, nice factory wheels, and good looks, are what attract me. Along with the cargo space you can't get with a traditional sedan with a trunk.

I would only consider one with a manual trans.


07 Tacoma V6 - M1 EP 5W-30, Fram Ultra, 10K OCIs, 228K
18 Civic HB 1.5T 6MT (Wife's) - PPPP 10W-30, OEM filter
07 Yamaha R1 - Rotella T6 5W-40, Bosch 3300
07 Yamaha YZ-250, Klotz, Rotella

Re: Anyone Own a BMW 5-Series Wagon? [Re: john_pifer] #5382955 03/22/20 01:08 PM
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,171
D
dareo Offline
Offline
D
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,171
E39 wagons are quite rare and can require wagon only parts like air springs in the rear. I had a 2000 V8 model and it was really fun outside of the once a month something small breaking on it old BMW syndrome. I did the math and between the high fuel bill and the parts bill it was cheaper per month to buy a brand new Golf Sportwagen. Not RWD but its operating costs are dirt cheap. I'd totally buy another clean E39 V8 if i got the chance as a project/entertainment vehicle but not as a critical daily driver.


2019 VW Golf Alltrack, 2018 Regal TourX, 2016 GMC 1500 SLT 6.2, 2007 GMC Savana 6.6 Duramax
Re: Anyone Own a BMW 5-Series Wagon? [Re: john_pifer] #5383542 03/23/20 09:31 AM
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,188
A
Audios Offline
Offline
A
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,188
E39 was the last of the simple electronics. E60 and up all get ridiculous. You dont even want to know what repairing the power trunk lid system costs. Rear air springs are common, and the usual crap BMW electric water pump. Plus the horrible when new, terrible now I drive system that seems like its running Windows 95 on cold days. Older the better, especially if you can turn a wrench and know what to look for.


2002 VW Golf TDI-T5 10/30
2007 Mercedes GL320 CDI-T6 5/40
2005 BMW M3 BMW-Twin Power 10/60
2003 BMW M5-M1 15/50
1998 BMW M3/4/5-M1 10/40
Re: Anyone Own a BMW 5-Series Wagon? [Re: Audios] #5384068 03/23/20 08:50 PM
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,004
A
antonmnster Offline
Offline
A
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,004
Originally Posted by Audios
E39 was the last of the simple electronics. E60 and up all get ridiculous. You dont even want to know what repairing the power trunk lid system costs. Rear air springs are common, and the usual crap BMW electric water pump. Plus the horrible when new, terrible now I drive system that seems like its running Windows 95 on cold days. Older the better, especially if you can turn a wrench and know what to look for.



My 2007 iDrive isn't the horrible monster it's made out to be. I like that it doesn't have any animation, and am comforted at how it reminds me of a 20 yo ATM. It's 13 years old and it boots up every day. Very, very slowly - but I'm not going to judge it. I actually kind of like it.

As far as e39s, I miss mine. Big, smooth, pretty easy to work on. I hated the logic of the 5hp19, but what a big, classy car.


2007 BMW 335i n54 218,000 miles, lubricated by whatever is on sale
Re: Anyone Own a BMW 5-Series Wagon? [Re: john_pifer] #5384084 03/23/20 09:01 PM
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,612
G
Gasbuggy Offline
Offline
G
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,612
I would rock a 535 wagon. CTS-V wagons are overrated, considerably more road noise than a sedan.


Cadillac CTS-V 6.2L 10w30PP
Volvo P1800 Euro L
76 Mercedes 300D Rotella T4
Series III Land Rover VWB
02 Yukon 10w30 PP
01 P71 M1 EP-HM 0W20
95 Accord - 386k. Mobil 2 RIP
Re: Anyone Own a BMW 5-Series Wagon? [Re: Audios] #5384149 03/23/20 10:18 PM
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 9,633
edyvw Offline
Offline
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 9,633
Originally Posted by Audios
E39 was the last of the simple electronics. E60 and up all get ridiculous. You dont even want to know what repairing the power trunk lid system costs. Rear air springs are common, and the usual crap BMW electric water pump. Plus the horrible when new, terrible now I drive system that seems like its running Windows 95 on cold days. Older the better, especially if you can turn a wrench and know what to look for.

When iDrive was introduced it was the best system of that nature. Everyone else fallowed up and never caught up. To talk how iDrive was "bad" in 2004 vehicle, 16 years after is ridiculous.
Rear air springs are common on all Euro vehicles, and all have same aftermarket replacement venue: Arnott.


11' BMW 328i xDrive 6MT (Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5W40+ MANN filter)
11' VW Tiguan 2.0T (Castrol 0W30+OE filter)
15' Toyota Sienna AWD (Mobil1 5W30 EP+OE filter).
Re: Anyone Own a BMW 5-Series Wagon? [Re: antonmnster] #5384150 03/23/20 10:19 PM
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 9,633
edyvw Offline
Offline
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 9,633
Originally Posted by antonmnster
Originally Posted by Audios
E39 was the last of the simple electronics. E60 and up all get ridiculous. You dont even want to know what repairing the power trunk lid system costs. Rear air springs are common, and the usual crap BMW electric water pump. Plus the horrible when new, terrible now I drive system that seems like its running Windows 95 on cold days. Older the better, especially if you can turn a wrench and know what to look for.



My 2007 iDrive isn't the horrible monster it's made out to be. I like that it doesn't have any animation, and am comforted at how it reminds me of a 20 yo ATM. It's 13 years old and it boots up every day. Very, very slowly - but I'm not going to judge it. I actually kind of like it.

As far as e39s, I miss mine. Big, smooth, pretty easy to work on. I hated the logic of the 5hp19, but what a big, classy car.


You can replace hard drive on that iDrive with solid one, and it will be much, much faster. There is thread on bimmerfest forum how to replace it in E70 X5 pre-LCI.


11' BMW 328i xDrive 6MT (Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5W40+ MANN filter)
11' VW Tiguan 2.0T (Castrol 0W30+OE filter)
15' Toyota Sienna AWD (Mobil1 5W30 EP+OE filter).
Re: Anyone Own a BMW 5-Series Wagon? [Re: john_pifer] #5384152 03/23/20 10:20 PM
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 9,633
edyvw Offline
Offline
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 9,633
Originally Posted by john_pifer
RWD, with the availability of a great engine (preferably I-6 of at least 3 liters displacement), manual transmission, good chassis, steering and handling, nice factory wheels, and good looks, are what attract me. Along with the cargo space you can't get with a traditional sedan with a trunk.

I would only consider one with a manual trans.

Get E90 328I with stick. That is what I did.


11' BMW 328i xDrive 6MT (Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5W40+ MANN filter)
11' VW Tiguan 2.0T (Castrol 0W30+OE filter)
15' Toyota Sienna AWD (Mobil1 5W30 EP+OE filter).
Re: Anyone Own a BMW 5-Series Wagon? [Re: john_pifer] #5384210 03/23/20 11:57 PM
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 638
2
2strokeNorthstar Offline
Offline
2
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 638
E34 or E39 6cyl is what you want. A v8 will be a maintenance nightmare by now. E39 has more electrical than E34. Cooling system maintenance is critical. 1 overheating can crack the head. About a $1500 repair. If that happens replace the timing chain guides too. Almost every known problem is documented online by now. Except the climate control actuators for fresh air. Those remain a mystery it seems. I’ve had BMWs for years. You need another car to fall back on or you will hate it and get rid of it.


2001 F150 5.4L
2013 Nissan Juke Nismo
2000 Honda S2000
1998 BMW 328i
Re: Anyone Own a BMW 5-Series Wagon? [Re: 2strokeNorthstar] #5384226 03/24/20 01:03 AM
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 9,633
edyvw Offline
Offline
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 9,633
Originally Posted by 2strokeNorthstar
E34 or E39 6cyl is what you want. A v8 will be a maintenance nightmare by now. E39 has more electrical than E34. Cooling system maintenance is critical. 1 overheating can crack the head. About a $1500 repair. If that happens replace the timing chain guides too. Almost every known problem is documented online by now. Except the climate control actuators for fresh air. Those remain a mystery it seems. I’ve had BMWs for years. You need another car to fall back on or you will hate it and get rid of it.

I think E39 are getting long in the tooth. I was contemplating 330 xi E46 (I have to have AWD). Found really good 2003, some 90k, stick, but 17 years old, it is too much. If I owned it from beginning, yes.
Anyway, if one buys E39, overhauling cooling system (which I would definiately do) is around $1500-1700 for parts.
And yes, BMW: only inline 6 engine.


11' BMW 328i xDrive 6MT (Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5W40+ MANN filter)
11' VW Tiguan 2.0T (Castrol 0W30+OE filter)
15' Toyota Sienna AWD (Mobil1 5W30 EP+OE filter).
Re: Anyone Own a BMW 5-Series Wagon? [Re: edyvw] #5384418 03/24/20 09:50 AM
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 638
2
2strokeNorthstar Offline
Offline
2
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 638
I still drive a 1998 328i 5 speed, E36. Got it with about 80k miles 10 years ago or so and had a run or 2 of bad luck but has been good for the past 2 years. The list of repairs is depressing but still fun to drive even compared to modern economy cars. The latest odd repair was a small oil leak that turned out to be the pressed in plug on the oil filter housing. Cleaned and put clear epoxy around it and has been good for past 5-6 months. At this age you will have many strange small repairs.

Last edited by 2strokeNorthstar; 03/24/20 09:54 AM.

2001 F150 5.4L
2013 Nissan Juke Nismo
2000 Honda S2000
1998 BMW 328i
Re: Anyone Own a BMW 5-Series Wagon? [Re: 2strokeNorthstar] #5384538 03/24/20 12:31 PM
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 9,633
edyvw Offline
Offline
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 9,633
Originally Posted by 2strokeNorthstar
I still drive a 1998 328i 5 speed, E36. Got it with about 80k miles 10 years ago or so and had a run or 2 of bad luck but has been good for the past 2 years. The list of repairs is depressing but still fun to drive even compared to modern economy cars. The latest odd repair was a small oil leak that turned out to be the pressed in plug on the oil filter housing. Cleaned and put clear epoxy around it and has been good for past 5-6 months. At this age you will have many strange small repairs.

Yeah, I am not sure does he want to do that. I really wanted E46 with M54 But with two small kids I find less and less time to wrench on my own for hours. That is why I went with 2011 vehicle, regardless that it makes me cring that it does not have oil dipstick, but at least it is manual and inline 6.


11' BMW 328i xDrive 6MT (Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5W40+ MANN filter)
11' VW Tiguan 2.0T (Castrol 0W30+OE filter)
15' Toyota Sienna AWD (Mobil1 5W30 EP+OE filter).
Page 3 of 3 1 2 3
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

BOB IS THE OIL GUY® Powered by UBB.threads™