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Originally Posted by Mr Nice
Talks of emergency cash for folks and market pops.
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This is very worrisome and the wheels are about to fall off the economic wagon.

Greed is bad especially if there was 10 excellent years of market run up and ignored all the warning signs.

Official recession begins very soon.



You very well maybe correct, certainly nothing at all wrong with your reasoning, much of it I agree.
We borrowed trillions of dollars bailing out the last downturn, then guess what?
We never stopped the borrowing! The last ten years of growth are based on trillions in borrowing, now we are about to borrow more on top of the borrowing we are already doing and we know it will never get paid back in the good times, just like it hasn't been for the last 8 years = House of Cards

With that said, money will never stop mindlessly pouring into 401k's at least not yet? Thus will keep pumping up or propping up the market unless employees pull the plug.

Also there will always be stocks with good growth to pick but maybe will not be the easy fantasyland that it has been.

I made a change exactly one year ago as I posted on this thread, looking for what I considered a good value, stellar track record of dividends, and what I think as being "on point" with a clear vision.
That's how I ended up with a very large percentage in my playing around yet safe playing around Roth in Walmart.
Wow! We all know things can change tomorrow but right now I'm very happy.

I kinda used what I think was Buffets thinking, a product, in this case Walmart which I can see a real vision, best in its field at what it does, a stellar history but most of all, someone like me who just over a decade ago would have never walked into a Walmart find myself buying everything there, recently I rather purchase on Walmart.com over the other big ones when possible because if Convenience.
Anyway that's my story, it can all end tomorrow but now Walmart is building Family Medical Care centers at its locations, wow, will be interesting.

Best of all I'm still up for the last 12 months even after this market plunge
 
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Originally Posted by alarmguy


You very well maybe correct, certainly nothing at all wrong with your reasoning, much of it I agree.
We borrowed trillions of dollars bailing out the last downturn, then guess what?
We never stopped the borrowing! The last ten years of growth are based on trillions in borrowing, now we are about to borrow more on top of the borrowing we are already doing and we know it will never get paid back in the good times, just like it hasn't been for the last 8 years = House of Cards



Something to keep in mind: it's even worse in China. Corporate debt/GDP levels are even more out of whack, as are personal debt levels (which are dramatically underreported due to the peer-to-peer lending that's propping up their housing market). It's a global economy, and then their house of cards collapses, there will be worldwide repercussions. If there is one positive about the the virus situation there, is that it will likely have a weeding out effect of businesses that were on the bubble, and thereby strengthen those that make it through.

Originally Posted by alarmguy
With that said, money will never stop mindlessly pouring into 401k's at least not yet? Thus will keep pumping up or propping up the market unless employees pull the plug.



You're right--some folks will not rebalance and keep contribution levels the same. And for that, I'm grateful, since it absolutely keeps the market propped up to a degree.

While I only own two individual stocks (AMZN and SBUX), I bought both then people told me I was stupid and it worked out. If you feel good about WMT, but it and hold it. Even this will pass, and they'll certainly come out on the other end of it.

If Boeing ever gets to $80, I'll get on that.I like to keep it local, and eventually they'll figure it out.
 
Originally Posted by SLO_Town
IMO, this could possibly put us in a worldwide depression. There will be no "V bounce". Stocks and the entire financial system could take DECADES to recover from this.

I hope I'm wrong.

Scott

Never disagreed with any your of posts before.

You are wrong with this one though.

This too will pass
 
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The first initial shock in the market is happening. Technicals hit a sell sign in early January. Stocks are way over valued and need to come down. This will not bottom out for a while. We will get ups on the downs. Just remember earnings for corporations.

I posted a while back in the TESLA thread when people were bragging about the run up. I then saw a post about bragging about 401k. When you see this it is normally a sign the market has topped out. Its been a long 11 year run in the stocks.
The down will be worse than you can imagine and last longer than you think it will. Anytime you have a huge upswing its normally followed by the same in the opposite direction.
 
Originally Posted by Amkeer
The first initial shock in the market is happening. Technicals hit a sell sign in early January. Stocks are way over valued and need to come down. This will not bottom out for a while. We will get ups on the downs. Just remember earnings for corporations.

I posted a while back in the TESLA thread when people were bragging about the run up. I then saw a post about bragging about 401k. When you see this it is normally a sign the market has topped out. Its been a long 11 year run in the stocks.
The down will be worse than you can imagine and last longer than you think it will. Anytime you have a huge upswing its normally followed by the same in the opposite direction.


Yes, bragging about 401k's
People fail to realize what are "unrealized gains and losses" vs "realized gains and losses" are. So dont brag unless the gains are realized because if they are not, they are not real.
I can brag but I do not, because I am still up for the last year but its not real unless I cash out and Im not cashing out, just looking for another big slam to buy more WMT somehow and I am sure one day as the market recovers WMT will get slammed to some degree as people move into the stocks... maybe, never know until you sell.


(JOD - I agree)
 
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Originally Posted by dareo
unbelievable pricing today on CCL Carnival cruise


No kidding... Yeah, there are some individual stocks that are really starting to look appealing.

Still have my eye on the Lazy B... I'm a buy and hold for 5 years if Boeing hits $80. The only way that's not a deal is if they fold completely, which I do not believe the gub'ment will allow to happen.
 
Did anyone listen to Bill Achman interview today on CNBC ???
Please listen to it if you have 10 minutes to kill.



ZERO possibility Boeing will be allowed to go under.

Cruise Lines , Vegas Casinos and Hotels: YES , let them fail.
 
Originally Posted by Mr Nice
Did anyone listen to Bill Achman interview today on CNBC ???
Please listen to it if you have 10 minutes to kill.



ZERO possibility Boeing will be allowed to go under.

Cruise Lines , Vegas Casinos and Hotels: YES , let them fail.


It depends what you mean by "go under". They may do what they did with GM.
 
Originally Posted by JOD
Still have my eye on the Lazy B... I'm a buy and hold for 5 years if Boeing hits $80. The only way that's not a deal is if they fold completely, which I do not believe the gub'ment will allow to happen.


Boeing has lots more going on besides commercial aircraft production, it's a pretty diversified company. Boeing will get back like many other companies when this all gets over the hump (who knows how long that will be though), because the world can't operate without people or products flying all over the place.
 
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Originally Posted by JOD
Still have my eye on the Lazy B... I'm a buy and hold for 5 years if Boeing hits $80. The only way that's not a deal is if they fold completely, which I do not believe the gub'ment will allow to happen.


Boeing has lots more going on besides commercial aircraft production, it's a pretty diversified company. Boeing will get back like many other companies when this all gets over the hump (who knows how long that will be though), because the world can't operate without people or products flying all over the place.


Don't forget all the important military contracts and national defense, satellites, etc....
 
I put my 20% cash in the market today thru my 401K into funds at work; It is very hard to time markets so I think now it is a good time to gradually come back to markets...
 
Originally Posted by Mr Nice
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Originally Posted by JOD
Still have my eye on the Lazy B... I'm a buy and hold for 5 years if Boeing hits $80. The only way that's not a deal is if they fold completely, which I do not believe the gub'ment will allow to happen.


Boeing has lots more going on besides commercial aircraft production, it's a pretty diversified company. Boeing will get back like many other companies when this all gets over the hump (who knows how long that will be though), because the world can't operate without people or products flying all over the place.


Don't forget all the important military contracts and national defense, satellites, etc....


Exactly ... that's what I meant by it's "pretty diversified".

https://www.boeing.com/company/about-bds/
 
Originally Posted by miden851
I put my 20% cash in the market today thru my 401K into funds at work; It is very hard to time markets so I think now it is a good time to gradually come back to markets...


You will continue to see some up and down in the market. Nothing has changed to make me believe we are looking at much upturn in the near future. But we can't talk about it here!
 
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