Recent Topics
VIRGIN MO-899 CUT OPEN
by 53' Stude - 04/01/20 07:06 PM
When to replace a battery?
by Chris142 - 04/01/20 06:49 PM
Blauparts 15% off double rewards
by sloinker - 04/01/20 06:14 PM
Ordered some VW 0-20 for my Beetle
by widetrax - 04/01/20 06:10 PM
Mobil 1 210-A Cut open
by kstanf150 - 04/01/20 05:56 PM
Buying tap and die set. SAE or metric first?
by HawkeyeScott - 04/01/20 05:47 PM
Yahama 189cc OPE engine?
by 92saturnsl2 - 04/01/20 05:17 PM
Insulating underlayment on concrete floor
by MoneyJohn - 04/01/20 05:07 PM
Black Silicone ADBV?
by The Critic - 04/01/20 04:25 PM
RxP gas kicker
by pbm - 04/01/20 04:02 PM
Pennzoil Extended Care -Ford EcoBoost?
by ls973800 - 04/01/20 03:59 PM
Rotella 5 gal bucket at Fleet Farm $39.99 AR
by biggusblockus - 04/01/20 03:46 PM
Mobil ones email response to bad oil filter.
by Micahmcmeen - 04/01/20 03:09 PM
gm 6.2l cylinder 8 misfiring only at idle
by apollo18 - 04/01/20 02:41 PM
NEW Adam's Polishes - Hand Sanitizer
by SavagePatch - 04/01/20 02:40 PM
Home vehicle modification fails
by IMSA_Racing_Fan - 04/01/20 01:57 PM
Internet speeds in current climate.
by sloinker - 04/01/20 01:55 PM
concrete work while at home
by spasm3 - 04/01/20 01:19 PM
Newest Members
ripcord, KenoshaWizard, junipertoxic, mtnrider, Rickborn
71072 Registered Users
Who's Online Now
112 registered members (53' Stude, Alfred_B, Al, 2010Civic, 2009Edge, 12 invisible), 1,950 guests, and 23 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums67
Topics303,445
Posts5,235,415
Members71,072
Most Online4,538
Jan 20th, 2020
Donate to BITOG
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Synthetic goodness #5379359 03/18/20 09:06 AM
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 116
D
DC_Stewart Offline OP
OP Offline
D
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 116
I have this small oil-in compressor that I use for small tools, tire inflation, etc. I got a real deal on it------for a reason. Since I bought it 5 years ago, it's a great summertime compressor, but has never started without preheating in my unheated garage, in the winter. Last summer, looking for things to do (now retired), I decided to service the compressor. One major item was to drain the original oil and replace it with nice clean oil. Since all I had was some synthetic (Mobil 1) that I had for the mower, I used that. It will now start right up in any temperature and has become a truly useful tool......all because of the right oil. Synthetic is definitely the way to go in anything that uses a lubricant.

[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]


DC Stewart
Milford Station
Nova Scotia, Canada

1981 VW Rabbit Pickup Turbodiesel
1956 Triumph TRW
Re: Synthetic goodness [Re: DC_Stewart] #5379364 03/18/20 09:11 AM
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 2,664
Bud Offline
Offline
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 2,664
That is a nice setup.


2016 Honda Pilot EX-L with NAVI.....Mobil 1 0w20 AFE and Honda OEM Filter
Re: Synthetic goodness [Re: DC_Stewart] #5379373 03/18/20 09:26 AM
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 591
D
Dinoburner Offline
Offline
D
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 591
Used syn compressor oil in mine. Other than additives in the Mobile 1 there`s probably little difference.


77 Chev stepside 454 Casteroil syn
95 GMC 4wd mobil syn
2016 Equinox LTZ V6 dealer
Kubota L5030 T6
Re: Synthetic goodness [Re: DC_Stewart] #5379381 03/18/20 09:32 AM
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 1,518
R
racin4ds Offline
Offline
R
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 1,518
You know they make actual Syn compressor oils that work amazing. I doubt it hurts anything but passenger car oils have additives that you don't want or need in a compressor. I use the ingersol Rand oils in my compressor, available at any tractor supply.


Just say NO to thin oils and M1!
05 F350 Powerstroke
05 Hyundai Tucson
'13 Passat TDi SE+Nav
Re: Synthetic goodness [Re: DC_Stewart] #5379454 03/18/20 10:56 AM
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 792
T
tcp71 Offline
Offline
T
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 792
Your garage is too clean. Jealous.


2016 F150 Eco: Edge 0w40
2005 Sienna 3.3: PP 5w30 syn. (varies)
Re: Synthetic goodness [Re: DC_Stewart] #5379464 03/18/20 11:06 AM
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,319
Duffyjr Offline
Offline
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,319
It was suggested to me to use Ingersoll Rand All Season when I bought my little Makita and when it's single digits or colder to open up the tank valve and let it run for a bit before trying to build pressure.


89 GMC Sierra Advanced 5w30/51036 Wix
08 Lucerne CX Advanced 5w30/1040 Gold
18 Toro Super Recycler T5 10w30
Re: Synthetic goodness [Re: tcp71] #5379646 03/18/20 03:26 PM
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 116
D
DC_Stewart Offline OP
OP Offline
D
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 116
Originally Posted by tcp71
Your garage is too clean. Jealous.

Thanks. I like to keep it clean.

[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]


DC Stewart
Milford Station
Nova Scotia, Canada

1981 VW Rabbit Pickup Turbodiesel
1956 Triumph TRW
Re: Synthetic goodness [Re: DC_Stewart] #5379766 03/18/20 06:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 14,618
T
tig1 Online Content
Online Content
T
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 14,618
I weld for a small machine shop and their compressor is about 30 years old. The only oil it's ever had is M1 10-30. This thing runs several hours every day in an unheated part of the shop. It starts up fine even in very cold temps.


2007 Ford Fusion 255,000 miles
M1 5-20HM
2017 Ford Fusion 86K
M1 0-20EP
10,000 mile OCIs on both engines
M1 ATF and M1 LV HP ATF
M1 10-30 in all OPE
MC filters

Re: Synthetic goodness [Re: DC_Stewart] #5380348 03/19/20 12:35 PM
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 116
D
DC_Stewart Offline OP
OP Offline
D
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 116
Yeah, compressor oil doesn't need to deal with products of combustion, so it is a cheaper (less additives) oil. M1 for me from now on !


DC Stewart
Milford Station
Nova Scotia, Canada

1981 VW Rabbit Pickup Turbodiesel
1956 Triumph TRW
Re: Synthetic goodness [Re: DC_Stewart] #5380766 03/19/20 09:22 PM
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 4,287
C
clinebarger Offline
Offline
C
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 4,287
I've been told air compressors use ND oil for a reason.....So the wear particles/debris don't stay suspended in the oil. There are dedicated ISO 100 synthetic compressor oils available, Amsoil & Royal Purple are 2.


Last edited by clinebarger; 03/19/20 09:39 PM.

2001 Chevy Camaro L92/4L80E
2006 Chevy 2500HD LBZ/Allison 1000
2010 Toyota Corolla 2ZR-FE/U341E
2000 Toyota Avalon 1MZ-FE/A541E
Re: Synthetic goodness [Re: DC_Stewart] #5380973 03/20/20 07:39 AM
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 116
D
DC_Stewart Offline OP
OP Offline
D
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 116
Yeah, I'd have to see proof of that statement. There's just nothing in a compressor that would "defile" the oil. It's simply the bottom end of an engine with no top end contaminants.


DC Stewart
Milford Station
Nova Scotia, Canada

1981 VW Rabbit Pickup Turbodiesel
1956 Triumph TRW
Re: Synthetic goodness [Re: clinebarger] #5381566 03/20/20 07:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 14,618
T
tig1 Online Content
Online Content
T
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 14,618
Originally Posted by clinebarger
I've been told air compressors use ND oil for a reason.....So the wear particles/debris don't stay suspended in the oil. There are dedicated ISO 100 synthetic compressor oils available, Amsoil & Royal Purple are 2.


Did you notice my post above yours?


2007 Ford Fusion 255,000 miles
M1 5-20HM
2017 Ford Fusion 86K
M1 0-20EP
10,000 mile OCIs on both engines
M1 ATF and M1 LV HP ATF
M1 10-30 in all OPE
MC filters

Re: Synthetic goodness [Re: DC_Stewart] #5381731 03/20/20 11:54 PM
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 4,287
C
clinebarger Offline
Offline
C
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 4,287
Originally Posted by DC_Stewart
Yeah, I'd have to see proof of that statement. There's just nothing in a compressor that would "defile" the oil. It's simply the bottom end of an engine with no top end contaminants.


That's not entirely true, Most industrial reciprocating compressors use Tapered Roller Bearings for Mains & Needle Roller Bearings at the Wrist Pins, Inserts are used on the big end of the connecting rod/s very similar to IC engines. In a splash lubed model....There are "Dippers" on the connecting rods to force lube into the Inserts.

Without a filter to filter out wear metals/debris....They need to drop out of suspension. This have nothing to do with combustion by-products (What turns oil black in a IC engine).

Dedicated compressor oils are subjected to Foam Testing (Stability & Tendency) that motor oils don't need to be tested for.


Every major compressor manufacturer recommends ND oil, Or more specifically......ISO non-detergent industrial lubricant with rust and oxidation inhibitors specifically formulated for reciprocating compressors. Including.....
Quincy
Champion
Saylor Beall
Kellogg American
Eaton/Polar Air
Ingersoll Rand



Last edited by clinebarger; 03/21/20 12:17 AM.

2001 Chevy Camaro L92/4L80E
2006 Chevy 2500HD LBZ/Allison 1000
2010 Toyota Corolla 2ZR-FE/U341E
2000 Toyota Avalon 1MZ-FE/A541E
Re: Synthetic goodness [Re: DC_Stewart] #5381738 03/21/20 12:18 AM
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 4,287
C
clinebarger Offline
Offline
C
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 4,287
Originally Posted by tig1
Originally Posted by clinebarger
I've been told air compressors use ND oil for a reason.....So the wear particles/debris don't stay suspended in the oil. There are dedicated ISO 100 synthetic compressor oils available, Amsoil & Royal Purple are 2.


Did you notice my post above yours?


I did notice......What do you want me to say? Mobil does have dedicated compressor oils, In fact I'm running Mobil Rarus 427 (ISO 100) in my 39 year old Kellogg American 332TVX compressor & has had nothing but ND oil it's entire life. Don't need synthetic or low viscosity oil because I don't start it in below freezing temperatures.....I'll heat the shop up first.

I also have a 60+ year old Mills compressor in a unheated garage, It'll start at 25°F with ISO 100, Rarely gets colder than that here.

I'm not saying a compressor will blow up using modern IC engine oils, But


2001 Chevy Camaro L92/4L80E
2006 Chevy 2500HD LBZ/Allison 1000
2010 Toyota Corolla 2ZR-FE/U341E
2000 Toyota Avalon 1MZ-FE/A541E
Re: Synthetic goodness [Re: DC_Stewart] #5381836 03/21/20 07:36 AM
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 23,181
T
Trav Offline
Offline
T
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 23,181
I run Redline PolyComp, the manufacturer of my spray hood recommends synthetic compressor oil in addition to a proper 5 stage filter and cooling system because of the less vapor loss from the hot oil. Running almost 30 CFM continuous while spraying with the hood keeps the compressor running a lot so it gets pretty hot.

https://frsport.com/redline-31304-each-oil-31304-polycomp-30wt-compressor-oil-1-quart


ASE L1, Master. Deutsch Meisterbrief.
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

BOB IS THE OIL GUY® Powered by UBB.threads™