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Changing tires. Never again #5379152 03/17/20 11:18 PM
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I thought I could save some money by changing tires myself. I thought the task would be easy, considering the amount of car work I’ve done. I have changed 4 or so timing belts, swapped an engine, changed an axle, etc. A tire swap should be mince meat - I was wrong. I couldn’t believe how much of a bullfight this was. Tire irons feel like Stone Age type tools, and to be honest, I don’t have the artistic talent to use these things. I tried for 2 days to get the tire off the stupid rim. The first day I got the old tire off, the second day I got one side of the bead mounted and the other I just couldn’t finish.

With a dinged up rim, I must shamefully shamble into the dealer to get my tires swapped. But never again am I going into the bullring. It is not worth the $30 savings. Do you do it yourself? Is there some magical tool that makes unmounting and mounting work? I tried lube, lots of it. Breaking the bead was easy in comparison.

Re: Changing tires. Never again [Re: Kurtatron] #5379160 03/17/20 11:44 PM
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I've done countless - take your time, if you are forcing it, you're doing something wrong. I use 6'' levers, they are short and stop me forcing things. The only time I've had a shop fit a tyre for me was on my trials bike....a nice soft tube tyre, with 2 rim locks. The tyre fitter wasn't too pleased with that - but they offered the free fitting ! Rim locks make a tube tyre fitting a bit harder, 2 rim locks feels impossible at first.


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Re: Changing tires. Never again [Re: Kurtatron] #5379164 03/18/20 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Kurtatron
I tried for 2 days to get the tire off the stupid rim.

I'm sorry, but that's funny! LOL

The key to vehicle maintenance, as well as dealing with co-workers/bosses/spouses etc., is to choose your battles wisely.
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After observing the simple, yet effective machinery used to change tires, I realized early that it wasn't anything within my physical capability/patience level.


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Re: Changing tires. Never again [Re: Kurtatron] #5379165 03/18/20 12:26 AM
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I was shown how then tried out a few years ago. They were 10-12" tires for scca spec racer fords and a few formula continental race cars. The latter were a pain as the tire had to be stretched over the rim they almost balloon out. This was with a small stand and levers to pry the tires off the rim.


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Re: Changing tires. Never again [Re: Kurtatron] #5379168 03/18/20 12:33 AM
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I can do most anything on my cars. But. I don't do paint jobs on my cars. I don't do tire anything on my cars. I've had the same tire guy for over 43 years.


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Re: Changing tires. Never again [Re: Kurtatron] #5379177 03/18/20 01:51 AM
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yep tires can be tuff, at least some of them...the shorter side walls are the worst

Re: Changing tires. Never again [Re: Kurtatron] #5379181 03/18/20 02:40 AM
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Man, I've done a couple with a cheap HF changer. What a PITA. Said the same thing.


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Re: Changing tires. Never again [Re: Kurtatron] #5379183 03/18/20 02:50 AM
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Chaning tyres by hand is all about technique. Even a little old lady can change a tyre by hand if she has the right technique -

Watch a little old lady change truck tyres by hand in this video here



EDIT; The action starts at 2:30

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Cable ties should hold it
Re: Changing tires. Never again [Re: Kurtatron] #5379192 03/18/20 03:25 AM
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But can she change a motorcycle tyre ?


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Re: Changing tires. Never again [Re: Kurtatron] #5379194 03/18/20 03:37 AM
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What are you using for equipment? Good stuff is the key! wink

When I went to work with my dad in 1968, I started out changing tires and lube, oil & filter.
He had the old style manual tire changer w/pneumatic bead breaker. This thing was mounted into the cement and very solid.

We did mostly all steelies(w/bias-ply-tires) as there were very few aluminum, magnesium or rally wheels that came in for tires...that I can remember.

The tools used were ancient but strong steel and very effective. However there was a knack to dismounting the tire from the wheel. And there was also a knack for getting a "too narrow of a tire" to take air on a wider wheel. Once mastered, I could do it with my eyes closed and one arm behind my back...well, you know! laugh

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Re: Changing tires. Never again [Re: Char Baby] #5379203 03/18/20 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Char Baby
However there was a knack to dismounting the tire from the wheel. And there was also a knack for getting a "too narrow of a tire" to take air on a wider wheel. Once mastered, I could do it with my eyes closed and one arm behind my back...well, you know! laugh


I took an entire day to swap all tires between 2 cars (175/65 R14C, half of them were Pirelli Commercial, the rest were Kleber Commercial), using an original Tyrepliers Bead breaker and some tyre levers. Even feeling doing it in the correct fashion, I'm not doing it again.


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Re: Changing tires. Never again [Re: Kurtatron] #5379209 03/18/20 04:41 AM
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Some tools that I use.....and no they aren't cheap wink


I do several cycle tires a year now because my Dad puts on quite a few miles a year once riding season starts.

I have done a few for friends for family as well and some of my own but my bikes dont' get many miles so thats not very often.

biggest cycle rim my tire machine can handle is a 17 inch unless i bought adapters then I could go bigger.

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I'd buy Callahan autoparts if I could.
Re: Changing tires. Never again [Re: Kurtatron] #5379230 03/18/20 05:50 AM
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I somehow manage to end up doing it once or twice a year myself. It's definitely an art. Once you are shown how the drop center in the wheel works, it is much easier and once you find a good bead lube (coolant in my case). But this last year I got new wheels for the Jeep, I was going to swap the tires over myself but my shoulders are just getting too bad and it was proving to be too painful. For probably the last 7 years my strategy is to mount myself then bring to Walmart to balance.

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Re: Changing tires. Never again [Re: Kurtatron] #5379237 03/18/20 06:11 AM
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Male egos can cause you to lose fingers...………..once I was a tire changer in a Goodyear store,,,I would have never thought not to use a tire changing machine, we would have been there all day....mercy me


I'd still like to have my 67 Beetle back....life was easy then..imho 2 quarts of oil roughly ,lol
Re: Changing tires. Never again [Re: Kurtatron] #5379239 03/18/20 06:18 AM
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A lot depends on if the wheel gives you a "generous" drop center. The chrome wheels on my F150 are some of the worst.

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