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How VAG dealerships recognize aftermarket tunes #5378820 03/17/20 04:04 PM
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Re: How VAG dealerships recognize aftermarket tunes [Re: wemay] #5378837 03/17/20 04:21 PM
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They have a flash counter iirc.


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Re: How VAG dealerships recognize aftermarket tunes [Re: wemay] #5378874 03/17/20 04:54 PM
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So does BMW.


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Re: How VAG dealerships recognize aftermarket tunes [Re: wemay] #5378877 03/17/20 04:59 PM
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That's why APR has their APR Plus program, where you are paying extra for a third party warranty APR administers.

Of course, you if intend to modify the car past the APR Plus program, you may end up voiding that 3rd party warranty.

But, the old saying goes: when you mod, you are your own warranty


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Re: How VAG dealerships recognize aftermarket tunes [Re: wemay] #5378930 03/17/20 06:30 PM
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APR Plus being backed by them says its the only super safe tune


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Re: How VAG dealerships recognize aftermarket tunes [Re: UG_Passat] #5378933 03/17/20 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by UG_Passat
That's why APR has their APR Plus program, where you are paying extra for a third party warranty APR administers.

Of course, you if intend to modify the car past the APR Plus program, you may end up voiding that 3rd party warranty.

But, the old saying goes: when you mod, you are your own warranty


Yep.. Going through this "dilemma" right now with my new R. I've never really cared much about car warranties--until I had a new car with a 6 year warranty on it. I had APR stage 1 on the Alltrack, and really liked it. I was planning to go IS20 on it, but bought an R instead...

I didn't go "Plus" on the Alltrack, since I figured I might be adding more power. With the R though, I don't know what I'd do with more power than the Plus tune on public roads. Tempted to go APR Plus, add an APR intercooler, and call it a day.

I did take my tuned GTI to a local dealer for a warranty repair (leaking water pump), and they did not flag the vehicle as tuned. Seems like this is just luck of the draw, though.

Re: How VAG dealerships recognize aftermarket tunes [Re: dareo] #5378937 03/17/20 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dareo
APR Plus being backed by them says its the only super safe tune


That's incorrect. APR Plus is not backed by VW.

This is why with the extra money you pay for APR Plus versus a regular Stage 1 tune, you get a third party warranty administered by APR.


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Re: How VAG dealerships recognize aftermarket tunes [Re: wemay] #5379064 03/17/20 09:19 PM
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How does VW view Dinan? They're well known in the BMW community and provide their own warranty.


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Re: How VAG dealerships recognize aftermarket tunes [Re: BMWTurboDzl] #5379096 03/17/20 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BMWTurboDzl
How does VW view Dinan? They're well known in the BMW community and provide their own warranty.


I'm not even sure they do anything w/VW.

Right now, APR is the only tune with warranty support. The other big off the shelf tuners are Integrated Engineering, Unitronic, and Cobb (for the gas engines).

Re: How VAG dealerships recognize aftermarket tunes [Re: wemay] #5379139 03/17/20 10:38 PM
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GM does this too - they especially monitor all duramax diesels coming in for warranty.

Re: How VAG dealerships recognize aftermarket tunes [Re: wemay] #5379269 03/18/20 07:12 AM
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This is why people use the JB4 device instead....

Re: How VAG dealerships recognize aftermarket tunes [Re: XCIDMigs] #5379276 03/18/20 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by XCIDMigs
This is why people use the JB4 device instead....


And others.


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Re: How VAG dealerships recognize aftermarket tunes [Re: JOD] #5379279 03/18/20 07:29 AM
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How does VW view Dinan? They're well known in the BMW community and provide their own warranty.


I'm not even sure they do anything w/VW.

Right now, APR is the only tune with warranty support. The other big off the shelf tuners are Integrated Engineering, Unitronic, and Cobb (for the gas engines).


You're right. I read a few months ago they were going to start introducing VW tunes. Just checked their website and nadda.


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Re: How VAG dealerships recognize aftermarket tunes [Re: wemay] #5379382 03/18/20 09:33 AM
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The last vehicle I tuned was a 2003 Evo. Back then these "checks" didn't exist. I have changed my mind on tuning the Passat now and even removed the K&N for a Fram9711. I want to risk my 6 yr/72,000 mi warranty as little as possible.


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Re: How VAG dealerships recognize aftermarket tunes [Re: UG_Passat] #5379589 03/18/20 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by UG_Passat
...But, the old saying goes: when you mod, you are your own warranty
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/foru...extended-warranties-are-a-waste-of-money
Touché.


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