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Replacing wheel bolts #5377441 03/15/20 09:49 PM
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Let's say one of the wheel bolts on a wheel needed to be replaced, would you replace just this one bolt or would you replace them all? The same question goes for lug nuts and wheel studs.

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That depends. If the threads are only banged up on one, why replace them all?


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^^ Also depends on if matching wheel bolts or lug nuts easy to obtain, may have to do one side of car. And then a particular coworker I have would notice anyways.

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I would just replace that one.


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Re: Replacing wheel bolts [Re: Donald] #5377491 03/16/20 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Donald
That depends. If the threads are only banged up on one, why replace them all?


I didn't say the threads were damaged. It's actually the head that was damaged by someone with an impact wrench. My concerns with replacing just one bolt is identical clamping force among old and new wheel bolts on the same wheel. We are talking about a 7-year-old vehicle. I don't know if the clamping force of wheel bolts changes considerably over the years. Then again, a whole set of new OE bolts isn't that expensive. I'm just curious.

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A brand new bolt will need a few tightening cycles to reach the same clamping force as the old ones. The new contact surfaces on the threads and head do change with a few load cycles. Call it embedding them.

Some brake rotors are sensitive to uneven wheel mounting loads. Probably your concern.

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If a headlight, tail light or turn signal light bulb burns out, do you replace the other? Of course not.

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Originally Posted by Donald
That depends. If the threads are only banged up on one, why replace them all?


What I was thinking .


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Just replace that one. Next, recheck the torque after ~100mi of driving.

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Just replace that one. Next, recheck the torque after ~100mi of driving.

agree

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Originally Posted by atikovi
If a headlight, tail light or turn signal light bulb burns out, do you replace the other? Of course not.


That's a faulty analogy. Bulbs don't hold wheels fast.

Yes, I do replace bulbs in pairs because once one burns out the other one will follow soon because they have the same service life and on most modern cars replacing bulbs is more involved than just reaching and replacing a bulb. Time saved equals money saved and the cost of new bulbs is relatively small.

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Originally Posted by whatnext
A brand new bolt will need a few tightening cycles to reach the same clamping force as the old ones. The new contact surfaces on the threads and head do change with a few load cycles. Call it embedding them.

Some brake rotors are sensitive to uneven wheel mounting loads. Probably your concern.


Well stated and confirms what I'm thinking.

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Originally Posted by vavavroom
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If a headlight, tail light or turn signal light bulb burns out, do you replace the other? Of course not.


That's a faulty analogy. Bulbs don't hold wheels fast.

Yes, I do replace bulbs in pairs because once one burns out the other one will follow soon because they have the same service life and on most modern cars replacing bulbs is more involved than just reaching and replacing a bulb. Time saved equals money saved and the cost of new bulbs is relatively small.


All the more reason not to replace a bulb that is working. The thought that once one burns out the other one will follow soon because they have the same service life is speculation or coincidence unless you have owned the car since new. If not, who knows if both bulbs were replaced at the same time the last time? Even then, voltage and resistance isn't exactly the same between the two not to mention manufacturing tolerances to accurately predict their lifespans.

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Originally Posted by atikovi
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If a headlight, tail light or turn signal light bulb burns out, do you replace the other? Of course not.


That's a faulty analogy. Bulbs don't hold wheels fast.

Yes, I do replace bulbs in pairs because once one burns out the other one will follow soon because they have the same service life and on most modern cars replacing bulbs is more involved than just reaching and replacing a bulb. Time saved equals money saved and the cost of new bulbs is relatively small.


All the more reason not to replace a bulb that is working. The thought that once one burns out the other one will follow soon because they have the same service life is speculation or coincidence unless you have owned the car since new. If not, who knows if both bulbs were replaced at the same time the last time? Even then, voltage and resistance isn't exactly the same between the two not to mention manufacturing tolerances to accurately predict their lifespans.


I've seen it happen often enough to know it's not speculation but a certainty. Please, remember, I'm not telling you what to do.

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