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German Castrol Still Available - USA ? #5376167 03/14/20 10:19 AM
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People used to rave about how good German Castrol 5W30 was - is it still available in the USA - or did Castrol stop shipping or change the formulation ?
I ask because while Castrol has USA fans of Magnatec or EDGE , spec for spec the oils that Castrol ships over to the USA are really nothing special (especially base oils , percentage of VII's contained a other specs. one might wish to compare against SOPUS , Valvoline or even against some M1 synthetic products ... I'll stop there and say if you are a fan of Castrol - then by all means continue using - but there is little doubt that German Castrol 5W30 was a different , better oil than what Castrol ships to the USA today .


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Re: German Castrol Still Available - USA ? [Re: ChrisD46] #5376171 03/14/20 10:27 AM
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I thought German Castrol was 0W30?


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Re: German Castrol Still Available - USA ? [Re: ChrisD46] #5376173 03/14/20 10:30 AM
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I think it went from made in Germany to made in Belgium (0W40)?


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Re: German Castrol Still Available - USA ? [Re: ChrisD46] #5376182 03/14/20 10:40 AM
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German Castrol, so-called because it was PAO-based, was a full-SAPS A3/B4 0W-30, and it has long been discontinued throughout the world.

It has been replaced by a mid-SAPS C3 0W-30 in Germany and the EU, which is also PAO-based, so also "German," but that has never been available in the US.


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Re: German Castrol Still Available - USA ? [Re: ChrisD46] #5376196 03/14/20 10:52 AM
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The Belgian Castrol 0W-30 SL is on Amazon, I haven't seen it at Autozone in a while: https://www.amazon.com/Castrol-06244-0W-30-Advanced-Synthetic/dp/B007G7PUMS

I'm guessing by the PDS that it's similar to the old German stuff.


Re: German Castrol Still Available - USA ? [Re: ChrisD46] #5376198 03/14/20 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisD46
People used to rave about how good German Castrol 5W30 was - is it still available in the USA - or did Castrol stop shipping or change the formulation ?

It was 0W-30. Production has shifted to Belgium in more recent years, and it's been reformulated a number of times. So no, the original green stuff is no longer.


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Re: German Castrol Still Available - USA ? [Re: ChrisD46] #5376225 03/14/20 11:35 AM
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I think Pep Boys still carries it

Re: German Castrol Still Available - USA ? [Re: slacktide_bitog] #5376226 03/14/20 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by slacktide_bitog
I think Pep Boys still carries it

Knowing Pep Boys, they likely still STOCK it! Right next to the leaking NextGen!


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Re: German Castrol Still Available - USA ? [Re: ChrisD46] #5376227 03/14/20 11:40 AM
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*Yes , 0W30 - my bad ...


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Re: German Castrol Still Available - USA ? [Re: ChrisD46] #5376295 03/14/20 02:14 PM
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I recall the German made 0w40 was discussed quite a while ago. Here is some Castrol 0w40 from Sept 2018 that was made In Germany. I did not see any 0w30 Castrol around here.


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Re: German Castrol Still Available - USA ? [Re: ChrisD46] #5376320 03/14/20 03:42 PM
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The country of origin does not matter. It wasn't called "German" because it was made in Germany. It was called German because it was PAO-based, therefore full synthetic -- vollsynthese -- in German sense.

There is a mid-SAPS Castrol 0W-30 C3 now, which is vollsynthese -- full synthetic in German sense. It is not available in the US.

[Linked Image from images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com]

The full-SAPS Castrol 0W-30 A3/B4 and full-SAPS Castrol 0W-40 A3/B4 are "teilsynthese" now, which means synthetic blend in German sense. This is because they contain both Group III and PAO; therefore, they are not full synthetic in German sense anymore.

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In Germany such oils are also called "HC-synthese," which means there is Group III (HC for hydrocarbons) in them, therefore full synthetic in the American sense but not full synthetic in the German sense.

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Re: German Castrol Still Available - USA ? [Re: Gokhan] #5376356 03/14/20 05:03 PM
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“Liked” Gokahn’s reply.


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Originally Posted by incognito_2u
“Liked” Gokahn’s reply.

+1

Just wish the pics were bigger.
Having a hard time reading the writings on the jugs from space.

Also, the "Made in Belgium" version of 0w30/0w40 (not sure which), is still available up here in Canada.
IIRC, it's one of the best oils offered by Castrol in North America.


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Re: German Castrol Still Available - USA ? [Re: ChrisD46] #5376448 03/14/20 08:20 PM
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Post of the day Gokhan. You won this daily pat-on-the-back a few time before too, in the past several months.
I'm trying to win it once in 16 years.....lol.


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Originally Posted by Gokhan
The country of origin does not matter. It wasn't called "German" because it was made in Germany. It was called German because it was PAO-based, ...

Wrong. It had everything to do with country of origin.
The original "German" Castrol Syntec 0w-30 was made in Germany and imported to the US.
There were versions of the Castrol Syntec 0w-30 made in the US and Germany at the same time.
The one made in the US was not as good as the one made in Germany (German made was full PAO, US was not).
Original German had a green tint to it as well, but went to an amber color in later production.


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