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Re: 2-stroke oil choices [Re: tundraotto] #5299726 12/20/19 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by tundraotto
I am confused - I run it at 40:1 and have NO RESIDUE AT ALL of any kind....and smoke? WHAT SMOKE???? - I don't know where you are getting this false information. I have used 3 jugs of it - The 800 2T It is cleaner than any 2-stroke oil I have ever used (including all the popular ISO-L-EGD) oils like the great old Mobil MXT2.....


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Re: 2-stroke oil choices [Re: dnewton3] #5299742 12/20/19 09:54 AM
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^ need to learn to adjust your carburetor properly at the recommended 50:1 ratio - operator error.

Re: 2-stroke oil choices [Re: tundraotto] #5299780 12/20/19 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by tundraotto
^ need to learn to adjust your carburetor properly at the recommended 50:1 ratio - operator error.


Well of course, that's not me. But you bring up the correct point. Jetting is key in keeping oil and smoke down to a minimum. None of my stuff looks like that.

Originally Posted by tundraotto
The 800 2T It is cleaner than any 2-stroke oil I have ever used (including all the popular ISO-L-EGD) oils like the great old Mobil MXT2.....


I don't think the M1 MX2t was an actual EG-D rated oil, in fact I think it met the FC rating. Could be wrong, but it's been years since I've seen a bottle. That oil was great for some applications. Play bikes, for example. And it was thin enough to use in an oil injection system. But not as robust as Motul 800.


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Re: 2-stroke oil choices [Re: Cujet] #5299932 12/20/19 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Cujet
Originally Posted by tundraotto
^ need to learn to adjust your carburetor properly at the recommended 50:1 ratio - operator error.


Well of course, that's not me. But you bring up the correct point. Jetting is key in keeping oil and smoke down to a minimum. None of my stuff looks like that.


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Re: 2-stroke oil choices [Re: dnewton3] #5300454 12/21/19 06:05 AM
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Very interesting on the Stihl oil.

I was told I’d extend my warranty if I ran their synthetic oil in my leaf blower and weed whacker. I’ve just been running it in my Husqvarna chainsaw and Lawn Boy mower too. Comes in a 6 pack is is relatively cheap.


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Re: 2-stroke oil choices [Re: dnewton3] #5300862 12/21/19 03:21 PM
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I was using Pennzoil Outdoor formula at 32:1 until I ran out. I’ve been using Amsoil Saber at either 40:1 or 50:1 since. At that ratio it gets a little smoky, especially at startup. I have an email directly from Amsoil stating that they don’t recommend going thinner than 50:1 in vintage Lawn Boys.

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Re: 2-stroke oil choices [Re: dnewton3] #5373053 03/11/20 12:57 AM
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Do you guys have a thought on adding MMO to the mix?
I run 50:1 Stihl mix in all my lawn stuff. Mostly Stihl and have some Craftsman. And they seems to be happy with it. But after reading about MMO, it's cleaning and lubricating properties I was thinking about adding 1oz of MMO to the mix. Do you guys think it's waste of money? Any benefit to it?


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Re: 2-stroke oil choices [Re: ruSSrt] #5373129 03/11/20 06:05 AM
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Their are plenty of good products out on the market that provide "cleaning and lubricating properties". I wouldn't bother adding any to a canned-fuel that already has lubricating properties in it.
But, if ya want to, it shouldn't hurt anything.


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Re: 2-stroke oil choices [Re: dnewton3] #5373133 03/11/20 06:21 AM
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Re: 2-stroke oil choices [Re: DaHen] #5373256 03/11/20 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by DaHen
Their are plenty of good products out on the market that provide "cleaning and lubricating properties". I wouldn't bother adding any to a canned-fuel that already has lubricating properties in it.
But, if ya want to, it shouldn't hurt anything.

Why would one want to dilute its mix ratio with anything (MMO)....its stupid approach


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Re: 2-stroke oil choices [Re: Kamele0N] #5373513 03/11/20 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Kamele0N
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Their are plenty of good products out on the market that provide "cleaning and lubricating properties". I wouldn't bother adding any to a canned-fuel that already has lubricating properties in it.
But, if ya want to, it shouldn't hurt anything.

Why would one want to dilute its mix ratio with anything (MMO)....its stupid approach

Technically not diluting it, but adding more oil to. So instead of 1:50 it's maybe 1:40 or so.


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Re: 2-stroke oil choices [Re: dnewton3] #5374100 03/12/20 02:50 AM
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A line of oil dripping from the exhaust pipe is a good thing. It has everything to do with the quality and fuel/oil ratio of the oil and not the jetting.

In my Husky chainsaws, I use their oil @ 40:1, then refill the 100 & 200 ml bottles with Shell Ultra synthetic 2-stroke.

I believe the PWC & snowmobile oils are the same product, except for the picture on the label.

Re: 2-stroke oil choices [Re: dnewton3] #5374751 03/12/20 05:18 PM
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stihl synth is not cheap but very pricey. it was intended for use in the 4 mix engines and it excels at that. using it in other equiptment is a waist of money and their warranty is worthless. just as most stihl products are.


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Re: 2-stroke oil choices [Re: dnewton3] #5375889 03/13/20 10:21 PM
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I use Stihl brand 99% of the time, no real reason other than I get to chat with the guy at the local Stihl shop. Bought some Walmart Tune it brand a few months back, it was on clearance for a buck. No directions on mix ratio on the bottle so went by colour, chain saw smoked like a sumbeech. Maybe its 50:1 maybe it 200:1, maybe its 1:1, who knows. Been using it up in the 4 stroke snowblower, seems to run just fine


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Re: 2-stroke oil choices [Re: dnewton3] #5376104 03/14/20 09:03 AM
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This time a year you can get good deals on clearance snowmobile oil that meets JASO FD and ISO EGD. I just grabbed a big jug of shell advance ultra for half price. Often the snowmobile formulations are the same or have a bit of solvent to help it flow at cold temps.


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