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Re: Here it goes again [Re: P10crew] #5374373 03/12/20 10:25 AM
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It’s looking more & more like big gas is the way to go in the F-450/-550s, the diesel ones just can’t seem to take it. And gasoline is only 2/3rds the price of diesel (& falling) these days anyway. Agree with the posters above, let us know what happened to it, and I share your Ford dealership frustration!


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Re: Here it goes again [Re: P10crew] #5374395 03/12/20 10:53 AM
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I was just going to say something like that. Do you need a diesel? What is the combined weight of loaded truck and trailer. I mean a gasser can have problems too, but a cost perspective it will be cheaper to fix.

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Re: Here it goes again [Re: ls1mike] #5374602 03/12/20 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by bullwinkle
It’s looking more & more like big gas is the way to go in the F-450/-550s, the diesel ones just can’t seem to take it. And gasoline is only 2/3rds the price of diesel (& falling) these days anyway. Agree with the posters above, let us know what happened to it, and I share your Ford dealership frustration!

Originally Posted by ls1mike
I was just going to say something like that. Do you need a diesel? What is the combined weight of loaded truck and trailer. I mean a gasser can have problems too, but a cost perspective it will be cheaper to fix.

No we don’t need diesels. In fact back in the day we were just fine with the big blocks.
Here’s the deal though. My crew now has 2 soon to be 3 I hope diesels of fords competitor that are at about the 25-28,000 mile mark with absolutely no problems what so ever and the hands that drive them give them rave reviews. As stated prior we don’t baby them and they get worked hard. Oh btw we did have to relocate the urea tanks on the 2 new ones because they got smashed right away. Other than that we will see.
Latest update on the trouble child is that the service manager called to say they MAY have time to get it in the shop next week but more than likely the following for the diagnosis.
In the mean time another crew offered us one of their new trucks for a couple weeks. 👊

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just stop buying ford diesel trucks-its that simple


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Re: Here it goes again [Re: P10crew] #5375550 03/13/20 02:51 PM
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Stories like these exemplify why many of us, in fleet use and when applications allow for it, go gas instead of diesel.

Current employer has over 200 F250, 350, 450, and 550s. No diesels in the bunch anymore. The 550s can still tow over 16k with gas power, and it's more than we need.

Re: Here it goes again [Re: P10crew] #5376302 03/14/20 02:43 PM
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In the oil patch around here there are many service trucks running around in 3/4-1 ton variations. Most are flat beds, 4x4's in white. About 80% are Rams with GM and Ford sharing the rest of the market. Not sure if this is due to cost/reliability/peer pressure. I agree with other folks, unless you need that huge diesel torque it makes no sense to not get a gasoline engine nowadays.


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Re: Here it goes again [Re: P10crew] #5378657 03/17/20 01:13 PM
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They left me a message this morning saying turbo,injector pump and exhaust manifold needs to be replaced . No other info

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Sounds like fuel system failure along with turbo failure possibly? They are probably changing out the passenger manifold because the bolts for the egr inlet pipe broke off in the manifold. That will be a hefty bill. If the pump failed like they usually do you’ll need entire high side sysyem or their “contamination “ kit. They’d be crazy and foolish to replace the pump in this type of failure.

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Re: Here it goes again [Re: P10crew] #5378890 03/17/20 05:14 PM
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Does any of that require another cab off?

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No it can all be done with it on. Though , with it off, it would make everything easy...I guess it depends on the tech. Cab removal is quick on a 6.7....1-1.5 hrs as long as there isn’t excessive wiring to separate between cab and chassis, or cab to utility bed

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Re: Here it goes again [Re: P10crew] #5378981 03/17/20 07:49 PM
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This ones been off twice so far.

The only wiring other than lights and trailer is that this rig has a Tommy gate and all of our rigs have big inverters this ones in a box on the bed.

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