Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by grampi
Again, and I feel like I need to keep saying this, I'm not condoning LL camping or speeding...I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of people thinking that speeding is acceptable, but LL camping is not...both are illegal, but many people believe there's nothing wrong with speeding because everybody does it...
One, when done in moderation, and when appropriate, may at worst, lead to a fine. Most LEO's don't pull over folks who aren't significantly above the limit though. The other backs up traffic, frustrates others and can lead to accidents when those frustrated folks attempt to get around the impediment.
The purpose of the two acts is also wildly different:
- Folks going above the limit are usually keeping pace with traffic and the idea is to get to one's destination as expediently as possible
- Folks LL camping/"policing the hammer lane" are actively working as a hindrance to the flow of traffic; working in opposition to the way traffic is supposed to flow either due to self-righteousness or by being an obliviot.
People don't typically maliciously speed; nobody gets out on the highway and drives 70 in a 65 because they are trying to be a menace. This is not to be confused with people driving like idiots like they are in the F&F, that's a whole different breed. On the other hand, folks that left lane camp either don't understand the rules of the road sufficiently to know they are a hazard, or they do it intentionally because they have serious mental issues. In either case, either due to ignorance or vindictiveness, their goal is not expedient arrival while being transparent in the flow of traffic.
FWIW, most of the LL campers I encounter are doing so because they're totally oblivious to what's going on around them, though I'm sure the self-righteous ones are out there too...the vast majority of LLCers are semi drivers...
Originally Posted by grampi
Again, and I feel like I need to keep saying this, I'm not condoning LL camping or speeding...I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of people thinking that speeding is acceptable, but LL camping is not...both are illegal, but many people believe there's nothing wrong with speeding because everybody does it...
One, when done in moderation, and when appropriate, may at worst, lead to a fine. Most LEO's don't pull over folks who aren't significantly above the limit though. The other backs up traffic, frustrates others and can lead to accidents when those frustrated folks attempt to get around the impediment.
The purpose of the two acts is also wildly different:
- Folks going above the limit are usually keeping pace with traffic and the idea is to get to one's destination as expediently as possible
- Folks LL camping/"policing the hammer lane" are actively working as a hindrance to the flow of traffic; working in opposition to the way traffic is supposed to flow either due to self-righteousness or by being an obliviot.
People don't typically maliciously speed; nobody gets out on the highway and drives 70 in a 65 because they are trying to be a menace. This is not to be confused with people driving like idiots like they are in the F&F, that's a whole different breed. On the other hand, folks that left lane camp either don't understand the rules of the road sufficiently to know they are a hazard, or they do it intentionally because they have serious mental issues. In either case, either due to ignorance or vindictiveness, their goal is not expedient arrival while being transparent in the flow of traffic.
FWIW, most of the LL campers I encounter are doing so because they're totally oblivious to what's going on around them, though I'm sure the self-righteous ones are out there too...the vast majority of LLCers are semi drivers...
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