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Aisin ATF-SCV fluid for Subaru and Mitsubishi CVTs #5365733 03/02/20 09:09 PM
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I stumbled across this fluid shopping for my Subaru Outback. I can't find much info on the fluid, but it looks like it could be an alternative to Subaru OEM fluid???

ATF-SCV is formulated for Subaru & Mitsubishi Transmissions that require CVTF-II & CVTF-J4 Fluid.
https://aisinaftermarket.com/uploads/nu4qa786_ATF-SCV_Product_Annoucement.pdf

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Re: Aisin ATF-SCV fluid for Subaru and Mitsubishi CVTs [Re: bronx] #5365861 03/02/20 11:51 PM
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Take a look at Castrol Transmax CVT. I have it in my Mitsubishi requiring J4 spec, and Castrol's PDS states it meets Subaru's i-CVT and i-CVT FG specs as well. It can be had for $5.83/qt on Amazon pretty regularly (6qt case for $35).


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Re: Aisin ATF-SCV fluid for Subaru and Mitsubishi CVTs [Re: bronx] #5365974 03/03/20 07:31 AM
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Only issue with Castrols CVT fluid is the color, its red. So if you ever have any CVT issues the dealer/manufacture may push back. I used a lot of aftermarket fluids and praise them. But for my customers I use a fluid that has a similar color while under warranty.


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Re: Aisin ATF-SCV fluid for Subaru and Mitsubishi CVTs [Re: bronx] #5365982 03/03/20 07:41 AM
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It is an alternative. But why not just use what was designed specifically for your Subie if you plan on keeping it for a while?


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Re: Aisin ATF-SCV fluid for Subaru and Mitsubishi CVTs [Re: bronx] #5366137 03/03/20 10:33 AM
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Be careful, Subaru doesn't source out AT boxes they manufacture their own Auto Trannies. So it may be OK and it may be not.
Only you can decide.

Re: Aisin ATF-SCV fluid for Subaru and Mitsubishi CVTs [Re: Jimzz] #5366157 03/03/20 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimzz
Only issue with Castrols CVT fluid is the color, its red. So if you ever have any CVT issues the dealer/manufacture may push back. I used a lot of aftermarket fluids and praise them. But for my customers I use a fluid that has a similar color while under warranty.


Amazon has a couple CVT fluids that are green and at a great price, not too much more than Castrol smile

Transtar (sold individually)
Cam2 (sold by the case of 12)

Valvoline CVT is amber, a neutral color that shouldn't cause any color conflict, but it is a bit more expensive ($7/qt at Walmart)

Re: Aisin ATF-SCV fluid for Subaru and Mitsubishi CVTs [Re: bronx] #5377970 03/16/20 04:24 PM
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I went ahead and ordered the Aisin ATF-SCV for my 2013 Subaru Outback and did a fluid change.

My observations:
The original fluid had 55K miles on it. It was brown like used motor oil with a green tint
I haven't seen the Subaru CVTF-II fluid in person, but from the pictures online, the ATF-SCV looks like a similar shade of green, much better looking than the brown green fluid that came out.
Both new and used CVT fluids smell like sulfur, similar to gear oil.
Post fluid change, no noticeable differences in driving and noise.

Re: Aisin ATF-SCV fluid for Subaru and Mitsubishi CVTs [Re: bronx] #5378500 03/17/20 10:14 AM
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Thanks for the update bronx!

It's a bit odd that this fluid is recommended for both Subaru and Mitsubishi applications given they're different CVTs. Like said above Subaru supposedly makes their own units and Mitsubishi uses Jatco units. Plus you're talking a chain CVT vs the Jatco belt.

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Re: Aisin ATF-SCV fluid for Subaru and Mitsubishi CVTs [Re: JTK] #5378634 03/17/20 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by JTK
Thanks for the update bronx!

It's a bit odd that this fluid is recommended for both Subaru and Mitsubishi applications given they're different CVTs. Like said above Subaru supposedly makes their own units and Mitsubishi uses Jatco units. Plus you're talking a chain CVT vs the Jatco belt.


Is it odd? Considering most aftermarket CVT fluids specify belt and chain compatibility (Amsoil, Valvoline, Eneos)

AMSOIL Synthetic CVT Fluid provides exceptional metal-to-metal frictional properties to help prevent belt and chain slipping and help extend transmission life.
ENEOS ECO CVT FLUID is applicable for both belt and chain pulley types of CVTs.
Valvoline CVT Fluid is recommended for use in most belt and chain-driven continuously variable transmissions and will not void new car warranties.

Re: Aisin ATF-SCV fluid for Subaru and Mitsubishi CVTs [Re: bronx] #5379505 03/18/20 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by bronx

Is it odd? Considering most aftermarket CVT fluids specify belt and chain compatibility (Amsoil, Valvoline, Eneos)



Good point on that.

Even Nissan Jatco units can have a belt or a chain. The Pathfinder CVT uses a chain and uses the same NS-3 fluid recommendation as the belt versions.


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