Volkswagen 1.8T Oil
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Here is the question, which oil on the market and affordable, is as good as or better than VW 502 though doesn't carry the approval.
I'm sure many would meet it.
read about this" beat to death topic" here:
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/816217/1
I'm sure many would meet it.
read about this" beat to death topic" here:
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/816217/1
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I have the same engine, 1.8T EA888 Gen 3 (yours might be gen 2 though).
Any 5w40 is OK as long as it has the VW502.00 approval will work. Technically, ANY oil weight with the 502.00 approval will be OK. With the Rotella T6, I'm sure it works just fine but since it doesn't have the approval for it, I'd make sure and do a UOA after 5000 miles or so to make sure nothing is wearing.
Any 5w40 is OK as long as it has the VW502.00 approval will work. Technically, ANY oil weight with the 502.00 approval will be OK. With the Rotella T6, I'm sure it works just fine but since it doesn't have the approval for it, I'd make sure and do a UOA after 5000 miles or so to make sure nothing is wearing.
Honestly anything for a reasonable interval. Ive ran 15/40 in my 97 1.8t with no issues for 5k, then switched to 10/40 for winters.
I doubt there are many similarities between an AEB/AWP/AWM 1.8t and a new one, these are the old 5 valve head motors that stopped production in the US in 05.
I doubt there are many similarities between an AEB/AWP/AWM 1.8t and a new one, these are the old 5 valve head motors that stopped production in the US in 05.
Here is a list of approved oils.
https://www.audiusa.com/content/dam...Technical-Service-Bulletin-1.22.2018.pdf
I have used T6 before with no issues and I used Amsoil AFL and EFM both 5W-40. With a leaky turbo I just bought a bunch of cases of M1 0W-40 at Costco on sale which is on the approved. I also used Total Quartz 9000 Energy years ago. I think it was a 0W-30 and was on the approved list.
https://www.audiusa.com/content/dam...Technical-Service-Bulletin-1.22.2018.pdf
I have used T6 before with no issues and I used Amsoil AFL and EFM both 5W-40. With a leaky turbo I just bought a bunch of cases of M1 0W-40 at Costco on sale which is on the approved. I also used Total Quartz 9000 Energy years ago. I think it was a 0W-30 and was on the approved list.
Easily available and cheap 5W40 is going to have a ton of VII. Not sure why you would ever need a 40 in Maryland. I would trend toward a 5W30 and a real synthetic but that's my perogative. If you really want a 5W40 and don't want the extra VI here's an option.
https://www.ravenolamerica.com/motor-oil/5w-40-motor-oil-ravenol-fullsynth-turbo-vst/
https://www.ravenolamerica.com/motor-oil/5w-40-motor-oil-ravenol-fullsynth-turbo-vst/
I know Edge 5W40 is a different formulation than 0W40. 0W40 says euro right on the bottle and 5W40 doesn't. The 5W40 isn't related to 0W30 or 0W40.
M1 or Edge 0W40 or RT6 are good choices, I ran MANN filters when I had my 2003. The longer one that everyone says to use didn't have the correct threads to fit my car, just get the normal one.
You can do normal OCIs on modern synthetics with a 1.8T, I've seen the UOAs. You might want to change the oil pick up tube if you plan to keep it, it's really easy and not too expensive.
M1 or Edge 0W40 or RT6 are good choices, I ran MANN filters when I had my 2003. The longer one that everyone says to use didn't have the correct threads to fit my car, just get the normal one.
You can do normal OCIs on modern synthetics with a 1.8T, I've seen the UOAs. You might want to change the oil pick up tube if you plan to keep it, it's really easy and not too expensive.
There is no reason to spend a lot of money on oil for this engine. Buy the cheapest oil with actual 502 00 approval you can find at Walmart which will likely be either Castrol or Mobil 1 0W-40. The grade (viscosity) of what you buy is irrelevant as has already been mentioned since the VW approval will dictate a minimum HTHS for the oil.
Boutique or expensive oils that carry the same specification will give you no measurable benefit. Just buy one that has the approval and not one that says "recommended for" or is otherwise ambiguous.
Boutique or expensive oils that carry the same specification will give you no measurable benefit. Just buy one that has the approval and not one that says "recommended for" or is otherwise ambiguous.
Not sure if this applies to your 1.8t but when I had my 1.8t A4 there was a TSB that changed the size of the filter (at least doubled the size of the original filter), made synthetic a requirement and shortened the OCI from 10K to 5K. I was using either Amsoil filters or MANN filters. I think I got the MANN from rockauto in a case for less then $5 a piece including shipping. I actually started using the same size filter on my S4 since it fit. The S4 stock filter was shorter than the A4.
Originally Posted by charmer37
Hey guys,. What's a good oil to run in a 2000 Volkswagen Beetle 1.8T,. I'm hearing a 5w40 oil with the VW 502 spec is required? I read on a Beetle forum that some guys are using shell rotella T6....Thanks ...Š
That engine is tricky.
Forst, you have transverse engine which is bit less prone to sludge. Run big filter. There will be two oil filter sizes that you can buy. It is an imperative you buy big one. This is correct filter:
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-mann-parts/oil-filter-priced-each/06a115561b~man/
On Amazon goes for like $5.95.
Second, only VW 502.00 and MB229.5 oils use. Rotella T6 will cut it, but IMO, it is not as good as oil that are approved for MB 229.5. In Wal mart you can get Castrol 0W40, it will work great in that engine. You can use Mobil1 0W40 FS also in Wal mart. Thsoe two are probably best you can find that and generally for that engine without going to Castrol Edge 0W30 that is $60 for 6qt on Amazon.
I had that engine in Passat B5.5, it is great engien capable to rack up 300-400k with no issues, but wrong choice of oil and filter could be death penalty for it.
Hey guys,. What's a good oil to run in a 2000 Volkswagen Beetle 1.8T,. I'm hearing a 5w40 oil with the VW 502 spec is required? I read on a Beetle forum that some guys are using shell rotella T6....Thanks ...Š
That engine is tricky.
Forst, you have transverse engine which is bit less prone to sludge. Run big filter. There will be two oil filter sizes that you can buy. It is an imperative you buy big one. This is correct filter:
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-mann-parts/oil-filter-priced-each/06a115561b~man/
On Amazon goes for like $5.95.
Second, only VW 502.00 and MB229.5 oils use. Rotella T6 will cut it, but IMO, it is not as good as oil that are approved for MB 229.5. In Wal mart you can get Castrol 0W40, it will work great in that engine. You can use Mobil1 0W40 FS also in Wal mart. Thsoe two are probably best you can find that and generally for that engine without going to Castrol Edge 0W30 that is $60 for 6qt on Amazon.
I had that engine in Passat B5.5, it is great engien capable to rack up 300-400k with no issues, but wrong choice of oil and filter could be death penalty for it.
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Originally Posted by BurntMusic
I have the same engine, 1.8T EA888 Gen 3 (yours might be gen 2 though).
Any 5w40 is OK as long as it has the VW502.00 approval will work. Technically, ANY oil weight with the 502.00 approval will be OK. With the Rotella T6, I'm sure it works just fine but since it doesn't have the approval for it, I'd make sure and do a UOA after 5000 miles or so to make sure nothing is wearing.
His engine and EA888 do not have anything in common.
I have the same engine, 1.8T EA888 Gen 3 (yours might be gen 2 though).
Any 5w40 is OK as long as it has the VW502.00 approval will work. Technically, ANY oil weight with the 502.00 approval will be OK. With the Rotella T6, I'm sure it works just fine but since it doesn't have the approval for it, I'd make sure and do a UOA after 5000 miles or so to make sure nothing is wearing.
His engine and EA888 do not have anything in common.
Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by BurntMusic
I have the same engine, 1.8T EA888 Gen 3 (yours might be gen 2 though).
Any 5w40 is OK as long as it has the VW502.00 approval will work. Technically, ANY oil weight with the 502.00 approval will be OK. With the Rotella T6, I'm sure it works just fine but since it doesn't have the approval for it, I'd make sure and do a UOA after 5000 miles or so to make sure nothing is wearing.
His engine and EA888 do not have anything in common.
Ah, I figured that it was a gen 2 seeing the vehicle is older. My b
Originally Posted by BurntMusic
I have the same engine, 1.8T EA888 Gen 3 (yours might be gen 2 though).
Any 5w40 is OK as long as it has the VW502.00 approval will work. Technically, ANY oil weight with the 502.00 approval will be OK. With the Rotella T6, I'm sure it works just fine but since it doesn't have the approval for it, I'd make sure and do a UOA after 5000 miles or so to make sure nothing is wearing.
His engine and EA888 do not have anything in common.
Ah, I figured that it was a gen 2 seeing the vehicle is older. My b
rotella t6 for the win
or total rubia 1100 5w40
make sure to use a mann 940/25 oversize filter
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or total rubia 1100 5w40
make sure to use a mann 940/25 oversize filter
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Originally Posted by BurntMusic
I have the same engine, 1.8T EA888 Gen 3 (yours might be gen 2 though).
Any 5w40 is OK as long as it has the VW502.00 approval will work. Technically, ANY oil weight with the 502.00 approval will be OK. With the Rotella T6, I'm sure it works just fine but since it doesn't have the approval for it, I'd make sure and do a UOA after 5000 miles or so to make sure nothing is wearing.
OP's is from 2000. It's not a Ea888 engine at all. it's a 20-valve, multi-port fuel injected engine with a K03 engine.
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back to the OP. The owner's manual back then was pretty loose in their requirements.... it was a bunch of "or" requirements:
5w40 or 5w30,
VW502.00 or ACEA A3/B4 or API SJ
... until the Longitudinal 1.8T sludge fiasco hit, which then VW clarified to meeting 502.00 only, with 5w40 preferable or 5w30.
that being said, Shell Rotella T is a solid oil with plenty of HTHS to meet the 502.00 requirement. Plus the OCI back then was 5,000 miles.
I have the same engine, 1.8T EA888 Gen 3 (yours might be gen 2 though).
Any 5w40 is OK as long as it has the VW502.00 approval will work. Technically, ANY oil weight with the 502.00 approval will be OK. With the Rotella T6, I'm sure it works just fine but since it doesn't have the approval for it, I'd make sure and do a UOA after 5000 miles or so to make sure nothing is wearing.
OP's is from 2000. It's not a Ea888 engine at all. it's a 20-valve, multi-port fuel injected engine with a K03 engine.
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back to the OP. The owner's manual back then was pretty loose in their requirements.... it was a bunch of "or" requirements:
5w40 or 5w30,
VW502.00 or ACEA A3/B4 or API SJ
... until the Longitudinal 1.8T sludge fiasco hit, which then VW clarified to meeting 502.00 only, with 5w40 preferable or 5w30.
that being said, Shell Rotella T is a solid oil with plenty of HTHS to meet the 502.00 requirement. Plus the OCI back then was 5,000 miles.
Originally Posted by charmer37
Hey guys,. What's a good oil to run in a 2000 Volkswagen Beetle 1.8T,. I'm hearing a 5w40 oil with the VW 502 spec is required? I read on a Beetle forum that some guys are using shell rotella T6....Thanks ...Š
Been some years but I happily ran either Castrol Syntec 5w-40 or the "GC" 0w-30 in my Passat, with a purolator filter. Don't overthink it.
Probably still have a UOA on the site.
Hey guys,. What's a good oil to run in a 2000 Volkswagen Beetle 1.8T,. I'm hearing a 5w40 oil with the VW 502 spec is required? I read on a Beetle forum that some guys are using shell rotella T6....Thanks ...Š
Been some years but I happily ran either Castrol Syntec 5w-40 or the "GC" 0w-30 in my Passat, with a purolator filter. Don't overthink it.
Probably still have a UOA on the site.
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