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Is Mobil 1 advanced synthetic a full synthetic? #5359387 02/25/20 12:08 AM
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Hey guys I picked up a regular grey bottle of Mobil 1 5w30 synthetic and I tried looking for something that says full synthetic on the packaging but I could only find “advanced synthetic”
Is this just a synthetic blend? Or what? Because I tried finding the same packaging on there website and it says full synthetic on there

Thanks

Re: Is Mobil 1 advanced synthetic a full synthetic? [Re: apollo18] #5359393 02/25/20 12:29 AM
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It is a group lll base oil with the possibility of group lV and/or V in the mix along with the add pack. It is considered a full synthetic in most of the world. A couple decades a ago synthetics utilized group lV and V base oils. Nowadays all of the synthetic oils available from your local mass market retailer is group lll based and calls itself synthetic. Does the job for most applications. Actual 100% lV/V synthetics are costly and usually not required for most applications and won't be found in walmart.


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Re: Is Mobil 1 advanced synthetic a full synthetic? [Re: apollo18] #5359426 02/25/20 01:46 AM
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Its not a complete Grp 3 for sure. I think for the money its a adequate oil that will benefit the average vehicle just fine


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Re: Is Mobil 1 advanced synthetic a full synthetic? [Re: apollo18] #5359434 02/25/20 02:16 AM
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Plain Jane Mobil1 5w30, is 5-10% PAO, 10-20% GTL, and I assume the rest that's not disclosed on the SDS is Hydrocracked Crude.

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They can legally call it “full synthetic”. There are no “100% synthetics” available at places like Walmart that I’m aware of. Some people say a gas to liquid (GTL) is 100% synthetic, which is a stretch. More semantics. Read this thread and you’ll see what I mean: https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/foru...nzoil-platinum-100-synthetic#Post5294237


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Re: Is Mobil 1 advanced synthetic a full synthetic? [Re: apollo18] #5359499 02/25/20 06:49 AM
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By US definition it is. Check out Mobil 1 ESP, IMO it's the best in their line up.


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Re: Is Mobil 1 advanced synthetic a full synthetic? [Re: apollo18] #5359515 02/25/20 07:38 AM
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apollo18 there are numerous threads already on the definition of synthetic oil. Please avail yourself of those multiple and detailed threads.


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Re: Is Mobil 1 advanced synthetic a full synthetic? [Re: apollo18] #5359518 02/25/20 07:42 AM
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'Regular' Mobil1 is a 'full synthetic' by current acceptable definition. It is an excellent oil..If longer drain intervals are your desire..Mobil1EP or AP may be more suitable.


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Re: Is Mobil 1 advanced synthetic a full synthetic? [Re: blufeb95] #5359551 02/25/20 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by blufeb95
Plain Jane Mobil1 5w30, is 5-10% PAO, 10-20% GTL, and I assume the rest that's not disclosed on the SDS is Hydrocracked Crude.

There is also some esters in all M1 oils. All synthetic oils are a blend of base stocks which leads to a higher quality lubricant than a grp 3-4-or 5 alone.


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Originally Posted by pbm
'Regular' Mobil1 is a 'full synthetic' by current acceptable definition. It is an excellent oil..If longer drain intervals are your desire..Mobil1EP or AP may be more suitable.

A friend pushed his 99 Silverado to 350K doing 15-20K OCIs. The engine still ran great when sold, but he sold it for $1000 after the third trans failed. All on reg M1 5-30.

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Re: Is Mobil 1 advanced synthetic a full synthetic? [Re: kschachn] #5359562 02/25/20 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by kschachn
apollo18 there are numerous threads already on the definition of synthetic oil. Please avail yourself of those multiple and detailed threads.

Good idea, it might be time for a "sticky" for the definition of a synthetic oil.


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Re: Is Mobil 1 advanced synthetic a full synthetic? [Re: demarpaint] #5359572 02/25/20 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by demarpaint
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apollo18 there are numerous threads already on the definition of synthetic oil. Please avail yourself of those multiple and detailed threads.

Good idea, it might be time for a "sticky" for the definition of a synthetic oil.




Don’t we already have this in the Motor Oil University section?


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apollo18 there are numerous threads already on the definition of synthetic oil. Please avail yourself of those multiple and detailed threads.

Good idea, it might be time for a "sticky" for the definition of a synthetic oil.




Don’t we already have this in the Motor Oil University section?

Yes, but that section gets a fraction of the traffic the board does. That question with all the times it is asked IMO is worthy of a sticky, along with a few other frequently asked questions.


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Re: Is Mobil 1 advanced synthetic a full synthetic? [Re: PimTac] #5359580 02/25/20 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by PimTac
Don’t we already have this in the Motor Oil University section?

Yes, and I forgot about that:

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/

Right on the front page.

Of course not all posters that ask really want to know the answer, but at least we should go through the exercise to point them there.


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Re: Is Mobil 1 advanced synthetic a full synthetic? [Re: apollo18] #5359603 02/25/20 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by apollo18
Hey guys I picked up a regular grey bottle of Mobil 1 5w30 synthetic and I tried looking for something that says full synthetic on the packaging but I could only find “advanced synthetic”
Is this just a synthetic blend? Or what? Because I tried finding the same packaging on there website and it says full synthetic on there

Thanks


What performance aspect are you looking for out of the oil?

M1 is pretty good for cold pumpabiliy at sub zero temps.


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