ST 0W-20 2013 Sienna 100k
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Originally Posted by jayjr1105
Let's setup a gofundme for OP to get TBN next time
That's funny! ðŸ‘
Let's setup a gofundme for OP to get TBN next time
That's funny! ðŸ‘
Originally Posted by jayjr1105
Let's setup a gofundme for OP to get TBN next time
...‚ I didn't know what that was until I started using this site. Next time I'll be sure to get it.
Let's setup a gofundme for OP to get TBN next time
...‚ I didn't know what that was until I started using this site. Next time I'll be sure to get it.
Originally Posted by bbhero
Warren Distribution makes very good oil... This report proves it yet again.
Mobil 1 makes ST, not Warren.
Warren Distribution makes very good oil... This report proves it yet again.
Mobil 1 makes ST, not Warren.
Originally Posted by RDY4WAR
Originally Posted by bbhero
Warren Distribution makes very good oil... This report proves it yet again.
Mobil 1 makes ST, not Warren.
Since when? Warren makes ST, Kirkland (Costco's Brand), Amazon's Oil and others...
Originally Posted by bbhero
Warren Distribution makes very good oil... This report proves it yet again.
Mobil 1 makes ST, not Warren.
Since when? Warren makes ST, Kirkland (Costco's Brand), Amazon's Oil and others...
Originally Posted by diyjake
Originally Posted by RDY4WAR
Originally Posted by bbhero
Warren Distribution makes very good oil... This report proves it yet again.
Mobil 1 makes ST, not Warren.
Since when? Warren makes ST, Kirkland (Costco's Brand), Amazon's Oil and others...
Warren did for a long time, but I noticed recently that ST is no longer on the list of oils produced by Warren and the Warren logo is no longer on the bottle. Per a tribologist friend of mine, Mobil 1 is making it now.
Originally Posted by RDY4WAR
Originally Posted by bbhero
Warren Distribution makes very good oil... This report proves it yet again.
Mobil 1 makes ST, not Warren.
Since when? Warren makes ST, Kirkland (Costco's Brand), Amazon's Oil and others...
Warren did for a long time, but I noticed recently that ST is no longer on the list of oils produced by Warren and the Warren logo is no longer on the bottle. Per a tribologist friend of mine, Mobil 1 is making it now.
That is very interesting, I'll have to take a look at a ST jug when i'm at walmart. Where did you find the list? Curious to see what brands are on there.
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Originally Posted by RDY4WAR
Originally Posted by diyjake
Originally Posted by RDY4WAR
Originally Posted by bbhero
Warren Distribution makes very good oil... This report proves it yet again.
Mobil 1 makes ST, not Warren.
Since when? Warren makes ST, Kirkland (Costco's Brand), Amazon's Oil and others...
Warren did for a long time, but I noticed recently that ST is no longer on the list of oils produced by Warren and the Warren logo is no longer on the bottle. Per a tribologist friend of mine, Mobil 1 is making it now.
This is big news and I'm surprised this hasn't surfaced on the PCMO section yet. Maybe I'll start a thread. Also, I've emailed Warren to see if there is any truth to this.
Looking a bit closer, OP's UOA lines up with the Warren-brewed Supertech formula FYI.
Originally Posted by diyjake
Originally Posted by RDY4WAR
Originally Posted by bbhero
Warren Distribution makes very good oil... This report proves it yet again.
Mobil 1 makes ST, not Warren.
Since when? Warren makes ST, Kirkland (Costco's Brand), Amazon's Oil and others...
Warren did for a long time, but I noticed recently that ST is no longer on the list of oils produced by Warren and the Warren logo is no longer on the bottle. Per a tribologist friend of mine, Mobil 1 is making it now.
This is big news and I'm surprised this hasn't surfaced on the PCMO section yet. Maybe I'll start a thread. Also, I've emailed Warren to see if there is any truth to this.
Looking a bit closer, OP's UOA lines up with the Warren-brewed Supertech formula FYI.
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Here's the complete list of brands produced by Warren. Super Tech is not on the list.
https://engineoil.api.org/Directory/EolcsResultsDetail?accountId=-1&companyId=10297
https://engineoil.api.org/Directory/EolcsResultsDetail?accountId=-1&companyId=10297
And also... Warren support denied this rumor that they aren't brewing for Walmart/Supertech anymore. (very good response time from their support I must say)
I am waiting for a response about no longer being on the back label and not showing up under https://engineoil.api.org/Directory/EolcsResultsDetail?accountId=-1&companyId=10297
I am waiting for a response about no longer being on the back label and not showing up under https://engineoil.api.org/Directory/EolcsResultsDetail?accountId=-1&companyId=10297
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James,
Thank you for contacting Warren Distribution.
No truth.
Warren Distribution is still a vendor for SuperTech oils, nothing has changed in that regard.
We provide the same great service and product to Walmart as we always have.
Thanks again!
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I do not think that Warren Distribution is the sole provider for Walmart SuperTech oils.
I believe we are the largest, but not the only supplier.
James,
Thank you for contacting Warren Distribution.
No truth.
Warren Distribution is still a vendor for SuperTech oils, nothing has changed in that regard.
We provide the same great service and product to Walmart as we always have.
Thanks again!
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I do not think that Warren Distribution is the sole provider for Walmart SuperTech oils.
I believe we are the largest, but not the only supplier.
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Originally Posted by RDY4WAR
Here's the complete list of brands produced by Warren. Super Tech is not on the list.
https://engineoil.api.org/Directory/EolcsResultsDetail?accountId=-1&companyId=10297
The ST 5w30 shares the exact same Dexos license as Warren's house brand Mag1 5w30 (D10386HGO25)... and WalMart stores holds thier own API license numbers (search Walmart Stores) for a multitude of grades. So my guess is Warren's making the oil still, under Wally's API license. At least for 5w30 grade, I didn't cross check every grade. And the previous poster is likely right, it wouldn't be unheard of for Wally's to have more than one supplier for different regions/markets. But for Wally's.com, it appears Warren's the supplier.
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Here's the complete list of brands produced by Warren. Super Tech is not on the list.
https://engineoil.api.org/Directory/EolcsResultsDetail?accountId=-1&companyId=10297
The ST 5w30 shares the exact same Dexos license as Warren's house brand Mag1 5w30 (D10386HGO25)... and WalMart stores holds thier own API license numbers (search Walmart Stores) for a multitude of grades. So my guess is Warren's making the oil still, under Wally's API license. At least for 5w30 grade, I didn't cross check every grade. And the previous poster is likely right, it wouldn't be unheard of for Wally's to have more than one supplier for different regions/markets. But for Wally's.com, it appears Warren's the supplier.
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Originally Posted by RDY4WAR
Originally Posted by bbhero
Warren Distribution makes very good oil... This report proves it yet again.
Mobil 1 makes ST, not Warren.
Ahh unless something had changed.... Supertech is made by Warren Distribution... In my area and others has well......
Originally Posted by bbhero
Warren Distribution makes very good oil... This report proves it yet again.
Mobil 1 makes ST, not Warren.
Ahh unless something had changed.... Supertech is made by Warren Distribution... In my area and others has well......
Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
It thinned out a little (cst@100) and there's some fuel dilution in there (.5) - which Blackstone didn't mention. I'd stick with 7K OCIs with this oil.
Otherwise, I'd suggest 10K runs.
Report says
It thinned out a little (cst@100) and there's some fuel dilution in there (.5) - which Blackstone didn't mention. I'd stick with 7K OCIs with this oil.
Otherwise, I'd suggest 10K runs.
Report says
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Originally Posted by PWMDMD
Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
It thinned out a little (cst@100) and there's some fuel dilution in there (.5) - which Blackstone didn't mention. I'd stick with 7K OCIs with this oil.
Otherwise, I'd suggest 10K runs.
Report says My guess is their method is not capable of resolving anything in that small range and for all practical purposes there was no fuel dilution according to THIS method - Yes, I know this method sucks for determining fuel dilution but flash temp still looks good.
Most certainly not. Look at the repeatability and reproducibility of the specific ASTM test which would directly relate to their estimation of fuel. For flash point in particular it is a highly variable test.
Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
It thinned out a little (cst@100) and there's some fuel dilution in there (.5) - which Blackstone didn't mention. I'd stick with 7K OCIs with this oil.
Otherwise, I'd suggest 10K runs.
Report says My guess is their method is not capable of resolving anything in that small range and for all practical purposes there was no fuel dilution according to THIS method - Yes, I know this method sucks for determining fuel dilution but flash temp still looks good.
Most certainly not. Look at the repeatability and reproducibility of the specific ASTM test which would directly relate to their estimation of fuel. For flash point in particular it is a highly variable test.
Originally Posted by kschachn
Originally Posted by PWMDMD
Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
It thinned out a little (cst@100) and there's some fuel dilution in there (.5) - which Blackstone didn't mention. I'd stick with 7K OCIs with this oil.
Otherwise, I'd suggest 10K runs.
Report says My guess is their method is not capable of resolving anything in that small range and for all practical purposes there was no fuel dilution according to THIS method - Yes, I know this method sucks for determining fuel dilution but flash temp still looks good.
Most certainly not. Look at the repeatability and reproducibility of the specific ASTM test which would directly relate to their estimation of fuel. For flash point in particular it is a highly variable test.
I guess my point is based on that report we can not say there is 0.5% fuel dilution.
Originally Posted by PWMDMD
Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
It thinned out a little (cst@100) and there's some fuel dilution in there (.5) - which Blackstone didn't mention. I'd stick with 7K OCIs with this oil.
Otherwise, I'd suggest 10K runs.
Report says My guess is their method is not capable of resolving anything in that small range and for all practical purposes there was no fuel dilution according to THIS method - Yes, I know this method sucks for determining fuel dilution but flash temp still looks good.
Most certainly not. Look at the repeatability and reproducibility of the specific ASTM test which would directly relate to their estimation of fuel. For flash point in particular it is a highly variable test.
I guess my point is based on that report we can not say there is 0.5% fuel dilution.
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Supertech is a great oil at a great everyday price.
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