Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by Ws6
Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by Ws6
It's a Macan. They arent anything special except for the wide tires. The Stelvio is a more balanced package that takes it up a notch though.
Confusing part is CX-5, Macan and similar cars. There is nothing similar between those cars and CX-5.
And there is much more to it than wide tires.
Acceleration is similar. Braking is similar. Skidpad favors the Macan with those tires. Driving dynamics are similar, and several reviews mention this.
Motoman (who owns a GT3 and has driven all of these vehicles somewhat recently) describes it at around the 9:30 mark. We get that you like to hate on the CX5 turbo, but you are utterly alone in this endevour, and you've never driven one, and from what you tell us, have never even owned any kind of sports vehicle. Get out. Go drive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=530&v=WEhkY2Sofmc
I bet that CX-5 was on RT43
ROFL!
I had a set of RT43's on my last CX5. They were what I'd call "okay". They were good in the rain, good in the snow, okay when dry, and okay for noise. My LX25's are what I'd call "good". They just take it up a notch in every way from the RT43's, mainly and most noticeably in dry traction, and in the NVH department.
That said, tires make a HUGE difference of course. I really think the CX5 would post a lot better numbers if they tested them on a decent tire (That's on Mazda for using bad tires, though, to be fair. The Toyo A36 tires should be thrown away as soon as you drive off the lot, unless you're like me, I threw them away half-way through my first year of ownership when they were worn out (4-4.5/32 left). At just 4K miles less than when I trashed them, the LX25's I replaced them with still show 8/32 all around, btw...). Looking at the SUV's TireRack tests, a tire in the same size can make 0.05g difference in dry skidpad as well as mannerisms, I'm sure, even in the same family/class of tire (not a summer UHP vs. a all-season).
The tire on the Macan are literally INCHES wider than CX5 or Stelvio for that matter, tires. That is why I'd bet it would out-handle either quite handily, but its brakes and acceleration put it square in the CX5's sights (slower in some tests, faster in some tests.) and the Stelvio ahead of both by a meaningful margin.
Long story short, no way in [censored] I'd ever spend base Macan money on a base Macan. It's nothing more than a Q5 on a set of rims with some badging and a bit of programming/tuning here and there, and the only Q5 worth getting is the SQ5, otherwise why pay the Audi tax in cost/reliability when a Stelvio will carve it up for breakfast for less money, if you're a gambler like that? Really wouldn't buy base anything out of Germany in an SUV while the Stelvio is around. Makes zero sense.
