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New to me 2014 Passat TDi- T6? #5352395 02/17/20 08:07 AM
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Hi gents,

Just picked up a like new Passat TDi yesterday with 40k on it. Manual calls for strict use of Synthetic 507 spec oil only. I'm finding these difficult to find... any other newer TDi owners on here care to share what you're using and where you are getting it? Prefer off the shelf oils, no AMSOIL pyramid scheme stuff... I went ahead and did change the oil yesterday just because of my OCD with not knowing what was in it (dealer window sticker said Castrol 0W20, which scared me!) I dumped Rotella 5W40 T6 in it, which IMO is perfect for almost any diesel 99% of the time, but it didn't have the 507 spec ref.


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Re: New to me 2014 Passat TDi- T6? [Re: racin4ds] #5352406 02/17/20 08:23 AM
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Liqui Moly makes two oils that are VW 507 approved...
Top Tech 4200 and Longlife III, both in 5W-30.

Look on RockAuto for good prices, but watch the shipping...

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/volkswagen,2014,passat,2.0l+l4+diesel+turbocharged,3307097,engine,oil+filter,5340

https://products.liqui-moly.us/oils/top-tec-4200-sae-5w-30-1.html


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Re: New to me 2014 Passat TDi- T6? [Re: racin4ds] #5352421 02/17/20 08:31 AM
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I just read up on Liquimoly, I've always liked their oils and the Local NAPA carries them in stock!

I'm just worried now if I'm hurting anything by leaving the T6 in there for a full OCI...


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Re: New to me 2014 Passat TDi- T6? [Re: racin4ds] #5352424 02/17/20 08:33 AM
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Re: New to me 2014 Passat TDi- T6? [Re: racin4ds] #5352441 02/17/20 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by racin4ds
Hi gents,

Just picked up a like new Passat TDi yesterday with 40k on it. Manual calls for strict use of Synthetic 507 spec oil only. I'm finding these difficult to find... any other newer TDi owners on here care to share what you're using and where you are getting it? Prefer off the shelf oils, no AMSOIL pyramid scheme stuff... I went ahead and did change the oil yesterday just because of my OCD with not knowing what was in it (dealer window sticker said Castrol 0W20, which scared me!) I dumped Rotella 5W40 T6 in it, which IMO is perfect for almost any diesel 99% of the time, but it didn't have the 507 spec ref.


difficult to find m1 5w-30 esp? better to use oil that carry Vw 507. And it works really good in that engine

Re: New to me 2014 Passat TDi- T6? [Re: racin4ds] #5352444 02/17/20 08:46 AM
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Rotella T6 5W40 is too thick to be approved against VW's 504/507 protocol.

VW 504/507 oils have additives that don't show up on any VOA or UOA you and I will ever see. Like high performance anti-wear polymers.

You could use Pennzoil Platinum Euro LX which is VW 507 approved.

It is available locally to me at select Advance Auto Parts stores where I live, I don't know about your neck of the woods.



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Re: New to me 2014 Passat TDi- T6? [Re: mattwithcats] #5352453 02/17/20 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by mattwithcats

Look on RockAuto for good prices, but watch the shipping...

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/volkswagen,2014,passat,2.0l+l4+diesel+turbocharged,3307097,engine,oil+filter,5340

https://products.liqui-moly.us/oils/top-tec-4200-sae-5w-30-1.html


If you go with Rock Auto, enter in different amounts of quarts and then calculate the price per qt. Like mattwithcatts said,
watch the shipping. Adding one qt to the order at certain quantities will make a huge difference in your price/qt. Almost like
getting a free qt. "ALMOST" like..


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Re: New to me 2014 Passat TDi- T6? [Re: Bjornviken] #5352468 02/17/20 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Bjornviken
Originally Posted by racin4ds
Hi gents,

Just picked up a like new Passat TDi yesterday with 40k on it. Manual calls for strict use of Synthetic 507 spec oil only. I'm finding these difficult to find... any other newer TDi owners on here care to share what you're using and where you are getting it? Prefer off the shelf oils, no AMSOIL pyramid scheme stuff... I went ahead and did change the oil yesterday just because of my OCD with not knowing what was in it (dealer window sticker said Castrol 0W20, which scared me!) I dumped Rotella 5W40 T6 in it, which IMO is perfect for almost any diesel 99% of the time, but it didn't have the 507 spec ref.


difficult to find m1 5w-30 esp? better to use oil that carry Vw 507. And it works really good in that engine


Sorry, won't use a M1 product in my vehicles for many reasons...


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Re: New to me 2014 Passat TDi- T6? [Re: skyactiv] #5352470 02/17/20 09:08 AM
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Thanks! I love the PUP oils, use them in most of my other vehicles I Just couldn't find the Euro formula locally, I'll have to check a few more stores...


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Re: New to me 2014 Passat TDi- T6? [Re: racin4ds] #5352531 02/17/20 10:05 AM
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If you delete it, the T6 is perfectly fine. Otherwise, it will shorten the life of the exhaust emissions equipment.

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507 is different enough that I wouldn't vary from it unless you have a deleted car. The 507 is expensive anywhere you find it. The Liqui-Moly is a good suggestion along with Motul, the factory fill was Casstrol. My choice with a real synthetic would be Ravenol. On sale now at Blauparts, free shipping like Jegs/Summit over $99.
https://www.blauparts.com/vw-passat-oil-change-kit-tdi-vw-507-00-5w-30.html


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Re: New to me 2014 Passat TDi- T6? [Re: racin4ds] #5352702 02/17/20 01:51 PM
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good move dumping anything xx W 20 as i did with the girlfriends 18 optima on purchase. seeing you live in a hotter climate a 5 or 10-30 diesel in cooler times + a 15-40 in the heat or even year around, 5-40 is an option in the cool as well but needs LOTS of fragile viscosity improvers unless its a real $$$ synthetic.

Re: New to me 2014 Passat TDi- T6? [Re: racin4ds] #5352802 02/17/20 03:23 PM
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Id actually go to the dealer and stick with their oil and filter under your dieselgate warranty expires. Keep reciepts.


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Re: New to me 2014 Passat TDi- T6? [Re: racin4ds] #5352812 02/17/20 03:32 PM
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I would not use the LM TT 4200. It was expensive and did not hold up for the 10k OCI without TBN depletion when used in my ‘09 Jetta.

The ‘09-14 TDIs have cylinder washdown during the Regen cycle which results in higher wear metals. The magnetic drain plug in my ‘09 would be covered in iron at each oil change. These engines can benefit from a thicker oil during these events.

The HD 10w30 and 5w40 oils will protect the engine better at the expense of higher ash.

Re: New to me 2014 Passat TDi- T6? [Re: racin4ds] #5352994 02/17/20 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by racin4ds
Thanks! I love the PUP oils, use them in most of my other vehicles I Just couldn't find the Euro formula locally, I'll have to check a few more stores...

www.amazon.com


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