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Ruger .22 SA - not a good show #5351898 02/16/20 04:48 PM
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I’ve owned a Ruger Single six for a long while now. Took it out today along with a 6.5” S&W 617. Set a cheap target (garbage pull because it was minimally used and the diagonal opposite targets were unused) at 25yds. CCI mini mag round nose 40gr. Not good with the Ruger.
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Then the 617.

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Nothing to be proud of, but I did shoot about half DA, they all generally went where they should (it was a windy day fwiw).

It’s been almost a year since I had time to shoot. It was the second time with the 617, and I haven’t fired the Ruger in years. Both were cleaned and lined the same.

I know I can get good groups with my M1917, 686, 15-3. I’m most practiced with the M1917 and can hit all in the small circle on that type of target, at my outdoor range, with consistently in reasonably tight groups, running Federal Syntech. I use that as a basis because it has similar (not very good) sights to my Ruger. All of this is standing freehand too, fwiw.

The grip is obviously different... is the Ruger suspect or am I?

Re: Ruger .22 SA - not a good show [Re: JHZR2] #5351903 02/16/20 04:52 PM
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Some of the .22 revolvers that have convertible cylinders (like our Single Sixes) don’t do well at all with .22LR... The bore is a thousandth or two bigger to allow 22 magnum, so they often do much better with .22 Mag.

Try it with the magnum cylinder and magnum ammo. I think you’ll see a big difference in accuracy.

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Re: Ruger .22 SA - not a good show [Re: JHZR2] #5351922 02/16/20 05:06 PM
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you can never judge any .22 from one type of round. all 22 rimfires have preferences, and some are downright picky. standard velocity should always be used for trying to get accuracy, unless you have a reason for using high velocity, usually hunting or pest control.

of course the single action ruger has a much different grip that most pistols..and i would bet that s&w has a nicer trigger.

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Re: Ruger .22 SA - not a good show [Re: JHZR2] #5351936 02/16/20 05:15 PM
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Try different ammo. MiniMags are rarely the most accurate round.


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Re: Ruger .22 SA - not a good show [Re: Astro14] #5351952 02/16/20 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Astro14
Some of the .22 revolvers that have convertible cylinders (like our Single Sixes) don’t do well at all with .22LR... The bore is a thousandth or two bigger to allow 22 magnum, so they often do much better with .22 Mag.

Try it with the magnum cylinder and magnum ammo. I think you’ll see a big difference in accuracy.


I recall reading about that long ago. Great idea, thanks!

Re: Ruger .22 SA - not a good show [Re: justintendo] #5351953 02/16/20 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by justintendo
you can never judge any .22 from one type of round. all 22 rimfires have preferences, and some are downright picky. standard velocity should always be used for trying to get accuracy, unless you have a reason for using high velocity, usually hunting or pest control.

of course the single action ruger has a much different grip that most pistols..and i would bet that s&w has a nicer trigger.


Yeah, it was literally a half-used 100 round box I had sitting in my trunk for a while. Got it.

I’d actually like to try the poly-coated 22LR.

Re: Ruger .22 SA - not a good show [Re: Astro14] #5351962 02/16/20 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Astro14
Some of the .22 revolvers that have convertible cylinders (like our Single Sixes) don’t do well at all with .22LR... The bore is a thousandth or two bigger to allow 22 magnum, so they often do much better with .22 Mag.

Try it with the magnum cylinder and magnum ammo. I think you’ll see a big difference in accuracy.


I have the same issue with the novelty heritage arms.22 with the 16 inch barrel. It is high and right with .22lr. I'm going to buy the 22wmr cylinder for it.


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Re: Ruger .22 SA - not a good show [Re: JHZR2] #5351968 02/16/20 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JHZR2
Originally Posted by justintendo
you can never judge any .22 from one type of round. all 22 rimfires have preferences, and some are downright picky. standard velocity should always be used for trying to get accuracy, unless you have a reason for using high velocity, usually hunting or pest control.

of course the single action ruger has a much different grip that most pistols..and i would bet that s&w has a nicer trigger.


Yeah, it was literally a half-used 100 round box I had sitting in my trunk for a while. Got it.

I’d actually like to try the poly-coated 22LR.


If you want accurate ammo, forget the poly coating. Get yourself some standard velocity. 22


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Re: Ruger .22 SA - not a good show [Re: JHZR2] #5351972 02/16/20 05:47 PM
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Set your targets at 7 yards, you will do fine...


I'd still like to have my 67 Beetle back....life was easy then..imho 2 quarts of oil roughly ,lol
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Originally Posted by CourierDriver
Set your targets at 7 yards, you will do fine...


I can shoot fine at 7 yards. But I’d like to work on skill at longer distances.

Re: Ruger .22 SA - not a good show [Re: Slick17601] #5352068 02/16/20 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Slick17601
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Originally Posted by justintendo
you can never judge any .22 from one type of round. all 22 rimfires have preferences, and some are downright picky. standard velocity should always be used for trying to get accuracy, unless you have a reason for using high velocity, usually hunting or pest control.

of course the single action ruger has a much different grip that most pistols..and i would bet that s&w has a nicer trigger.


Yeah, it was literally a half-used 100 round box I had sitting in my trunk for a while. Got it.

I’d actually like to try the poly-coated 22LR.


If you want accurate ammo, forget the poly coating. Get yourself some standard velocity. 22


The blue poly coated is 1070 FPS, same as standard velocity. Supposedly much cleaner.

I heavily use Federal Syntech for 9/45 and am a believer.

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Originally Posted by JHZR2
I’ve owned a Ruger Single six for a long while now. Took it out today along with a 6.5” S&W 617.


What's the barrel length on the Ruger Single Six? Shorter sight radius perhaps?

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The Ruger looks like it has a 25lb trigger pull.


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Trigger pull and the ammo play a big part of it with that gun. You're going to have to experiment a bit.


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Re: Ruger .22 SA - not a good show [Re: Mainia] #5352450 02/17/20 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Mainia
The Ruger looks like it has a 25lb trigger pull.


It's single action - so, I'm guessing it's a bit below that...

Mine breaks at about 2-3 lbs (never put a scale on it). Very easy pistol to shoot accurately.

I suppose that I got lucky with my Single Six. At ten yards (my usual pistol shooting range), it prints about 3/4" groups with regular .22 LR ammo. A couple of cylinders of shooting, and there is just a ragged hole where the bullseye used to be. One of the things I like about that little pistol (aside from the fact that it was a gift from Mrs. Astro) is how accurate it is.


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