Michelin Introduces New "X-Ice Snow"

Originally Posted by FordFocus
Does anyone know if the SUV version will be identical to the passenger version or will they be there be differences? Also does anyone know what sizes will be available when it launches? I'm guessing Michelin would've announced this tire at the Detroit auto show this winter if they have not moved it to the summer. I wonder if they will announce it in June but it would totally be an off-season tire at that time of year.


IIRC the normal procedure is:produce it in spring/summer for the winter season.

Also there is always some tread differences between sizes.. esp width.

With the current naming scheme who knows..


They could have called the xice xi2 latitude xice xi3 suv or similar.
it was odd they used different numbering on the generations for passenger vs truck models.

from memory the generations:
passenger xice truck nothing?
passenger xice xi2 truck xice latitude
passenger xice xi3 truck xice xi2 latitude.
 
Originally Posted by FordFocus
Does anyone know if the SUV version will be identical to the passenger version or will they be there be differences? Also does anyone know what sizes will be available when it launches? I'm guessing Michelin would've announced this tire at the Detroit auto show this winter if they have not moved it to the summer. I wonder if they will announce it in June but it would totally be an off-season tire at that time of year.

It would not be surprising if Michelin just introduces tire without too much advertising. They will still fly off the shelf.
 
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Also does anyone know what sizes will be available when it launches?


From 175/70 R14 up to 285/45 R22.
 
Will be looking particularly for 215/60R6 and 255/70R16 And read this
" the X-Ice Snow tire range will be a total of 82 sizes for 14-22 inch rims. In 2021, the manufacturer will add another 41 dimensions".
So just wondering what sizes will be in the first batch
 
Originally Posted by SubLGT
Information is still just trickling out to the public. Michelin has not yet posted a press release about the X-Ice Snow at their website. Not sure why Michelin is doing a semi-stealthy introduction of a new tire.

Tire Review in the UK has a poorly written, confusing article about the Snow. No proof reading at TR-UK apparently.
https://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/Michelin-X-Ice-Snow-Launched.htm


The reason why Michelin does not have to advertise is their emphasis on performance when worn out. They are absolute king in retaining performance, and that shows in sales.
Person who had X-Ice3 will go next year to buy X-Ice3, and will see new tire and say: oh great.
 
Michelin introduces the X-Ice Snow to the North American market:

https://www.moderntiredealer.com/ne...inter-tire-line-with-new-x-ice-snow-tire

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....Introduced late last week during a ride-and-drive event near Montreal, Quebec, the Michelin X-Ice Snow targets passenger cars, SUVs and CUVs and will be available this coming fall in 82 T- and H-rated sizes, ranging from 14 inches to 22 inches in diameter. Forty-one more sizes will be added in 2021...

Features include:

...Next-generation, V-shaped tread design "providing 100% use of the (tire's) contact patch for optimal grip performance on snow and ice and for exceptional slush performance," according to Michelin officials, who add that the design "maintains its shape even when worn to continue providing grip in winter conditions;"

...Michelin's proprietary Flex-Ice 2.0 tread compound, "a full silica-based compound to maintain flexibility in severe cold climate conditions;"

...Michelin's EverGrip technologies, which boast a rigid polymer for improved grip on both snow and ice for the duration of the tire's life, and;

...Two types of full-depth, interlocking 3D sipes "for an increased claw effect on snow and ice and for long-lasting biting edges."
 
Originally Posted by SubLGT
Back in Oct 2018 Michelin announced that they were designing a new winter tire for the North American market specifically, to be manufactured at their plant in Nova Scotia. I have not seen any further news about this new "North American winter tire". Perhaps this idea has been abandoned, and the Nova Scotia plant manufactures the X-Ice Snow. ??...........I have not yet seen any specific information about availability of the X-Ice Snow in the North American market. For sure, it will be available in Northern Europe and Russia. I assume it will also be available in North America.


https://www.moderntiredealer.com/ne...inter-tire-line-with-new-x-ice-snow-tire

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Eighty-five-percent of Michelin's North American volume for the Michelin X-Ice Snow will be manufactured at the company's plant in Nova Scotia. The tire's size line-up will cover 80% of the North American market, according to Sabrina Garofalo, product manager, winter, for Michelin.
 
https://michelinmedia.com/pages/blog/detail/article/c0/a961/

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....The new X-Ice SNOW winter tire for passenger cars and SUVs has been developed, tested and proven in Michelin's Nordic test centers under the most rigorous constant extreme-winter driving conditions. Notably, 85% of Michelin's North American volume for the X-Ice SNOW tire will be produced in Nova Scotia, Canada.

Testing reveals that the new MICHELIN X-Ice SNOW tire features improved snow performance and braking as compared to its predecessor , stops [with 4mm tread depth] nearly 3 meters (10 feet) shorter on ice than a leading competitor [the NOKIAN® Hakkappeliitta R3 SUV in tire size 235/55R19 105H XL]. , and lasts up to one additional winter season than the average of leading competitor tires.

"The new MICHELIN X-Ice SNOW tire is designed to give drivers peace of mind when driving in extreme winter conditions," says Sylvaine Cuniberti, Michelin's marketing director. "We have an exceptional winter tire with a new tread design and innovative technologies, resulting in improved snow performance and leadership in ice braking. The MICHELIN X-Ice SNOW provides drivers and passengers with long-lasting winter performance and continues to perform as an industry leader as it wears while being covered by a segment-exclusive [40,000 mile] limited treadwear warranty."

The MICHELIN X-Ice SNOW tire replaces Michelin's X-Ice® Xi3™ and Latitude X-Ice® Xi2™ tire lines and will be available Fall 2020 in 82 sizes with speed ratings T and H for passenger vehicles, CUVs and SUVs using 14 to 22-inch rim diameters. An additional 41 sizes will be introduced starting Fall 2021.


Testing details:
1 New, at 10,000 km, and when worn to 4 mm and 2 mm tread depth, the MICHELIN® X-Ice® SNOW tire offers shorter snow and ice stopping distances on average than its predecessor, based on third-party snow braking test (between 35 km/h and 5 km/h) and ice braking test (between 30 km/h and 5 km/h), in December 2019 and January 2020: (1) on a Volkswagen® Golf 1.5 TSI comparing the MICHELIN® X-Ice® SNOW tire versus MICHELIN® X-ICE® Xi3 in tire size 205/55R16 94H XL, and (2) on a Volkswagen® Tiguan comparing the MICHELIN® X-Ice® SNOW SUV tire versus MICHELIN® Latitude® X-Ice® Xi2 in tire size 235/55R19 105H XL.

2 Based on third-party ice braking test (between 30 km/h and 5 km/h) in December 2019 and January 2020, in a Volkswagen® Tiguan comparing the MICHELIN® X-Ice® SNOW SUV tire versus NOKIAN® Hakkappeliitta R3 SUV in tire size 235/55R19 105H XL. Tires mechanically buffed, then 8,000 km performed in real usage in North Finland, until worn to 4 mm tread depth before being tested.

3 Based on third-party longevity tests, in North Finland between October 2019 and January 2020, on a Volkswagen® Golf 1.5 TSI comparing the MICHELIN® X-Ice® SNOW tire versus BRIDGESTONE® Blizzak WS-90, CONTINENTAL® Viking Contact 7, NOKIAN® Hakkappeliitta R3, GOODYEAR® UltraGrip Ice 2, Pirelli® Ice Zero FR in tire size 205/55R16 94H XL. 12,000 kilometres driven per winter is estimated from annual average kilometres driven in Canada per vehicle by Desrosiers Automotive Consultants. A winter season is defined as six months.

4 Based on third-party ice braking test on a Volkswagen® Tiguan (between 30 km/h and 5 km/h), in December 2019 and January 2020, comparing: (1) the MICHELIN® X-Ice® SNOW SUV tire versus, BRIDGESTONE® Blizzak DM-V2, CONTINENTAL® Viking Contact 7, NOKIAN® Hakkappeliitta R3 SUV, GOODYEAR® UltraGrip Ice WRT SUV and TOYO® Observe GSI5 in tire size 235/55R19 105H XL and (2) on a Volkswagen® Golf 1.5 TSI comparing the MICHELIN® X-Ice® SNOW tire versus BRIDGESTONE Blizzak WS-90 and Blizzak Ice, CONTINENTAL® Viking Contact 7, NOKIAN® Hakkappeliitta R3, GOODYEAR® UltraGrip Ice 2 and PIRELLI® Ice-Zero FR in tire size 205/55R16 94H XL. All tires mechanically buffed, then 8,000 km performed in real usage in North Finland until worn to 4 mm tread depth before being tested.

5 Based on: (1) internal hydroplaning longitudinal acceleration test performed in France in March 2019, on a Volkswagen® Golf 7 comparing the MICHELIN® X-Ice® SNOW tire versus MICHELIN® X-Ice® Xi3 in tire size 205/55R16 94H XL and on: (2) internal hydroplaning curve test performed in Japan in February 2019, on an AUDI® A4, comparing the MICHELIN® X-Ice® SNOW tire versus MICHELIN® X-Ice® Xi3 in tire size 205/55R16 94H XL.
 
https://www.tirereview.com/michelin-x-ice-snow/

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...Michelin invited tire dealers, distributors and members of the media to put the X-Ice Snow to the test through various courses at Circuit Mecaglisse, a motorsports complex about 80 miles north of Montreal. Participants careened through the snow-covered course experiencing the tire's handling, braking and cornering in deep snow, packed snow and ice against its competitors. Using Hyundai Elantras and Ford Escapes in different tests, Michelin also shaved each tire to 4/32-in. of tread depth to show the Ice-X Snow's lasting performance as the tire wears...

...Taking almost three years to develop, the X-Ice Snow was created based on feedback from tire dealers, distributors and consumers on what they wanted improved from the X-Ice 3, Cowart said. Their answer? A more aggressive tread pattern so that the tire's look dictated its performance capabilities. Marco Troiano, key account manager involved in gaining that feedback, said it all made sense: "Tire dealers have a crunched window for selling winter tires and want one that screams, ‘I can handle the elements!'"
"A retailer is selling probably somewhere between 70-75% of their annualized winter volume in about eight weeks," Troiano explained. "Because there's so much volume going through those stores in a short period of time, the retailer themselves doesn't have the time to go through all the tire's features and benefits, so they wanted something where the consumer would come in, look and say, ‘Yes, it has the look as well as the performance.'"...
 
Michelin Press Release

https://www.michelinmedia.com/pages/blog/detail/article/c0/a961/
Michelin introduced the MICHELIN® X-Ice® SNOW tire ― the new generation of its superior winter tire designed for maximum mobility and safety, winter after winter ― in a special demonstration last week.

The new X-Ice SNOW winter tire for passenger cars and SUVs has been developed, tested and proven in Michelin's Nordic test centers under the most rigorous constant extreme-winter driving conditions. Notably, 85% of Michelin's North American volume for the X-Ice SNOW tire will be produced in Nova Scotia, Canada.

Testing reveals that the new MICHELIN X-Ice SNOW tire features improved snow performance and braking as compared to its predecessor1, stops nearly 3 meters (10 feet) shorter on ice than a leading competitor2, and lasts up to one additional winter season than the average of leading competitor tires.3

"The new MICHELIN X-Ice SNOW tire is designed to give drivers peace of mind when driving in extreme winter conditions," says Sylvaine Cuniberti, Michelin's marketing director. "We have an exceptional winter tire with a new tread design and innovative technologies, resulting in improved snow performance1 and leadership in ice braking4. The MICHELIN X-Ice SNOW provides drivers and passengers with long-lasting winter performance and continues to perform as an industry leader as it wears3,4, while being covered by a segment-exclusive limited treadwear warranty."

The new MICHELIN X-Ice SNOW tire provides the necessary traction to overcome extreme winter conditions by relying on innovations that support the key characteristics of a winter tire:

· Next-generation V-shaped tread design: providing 100% use of the contact patch for optimal grip performance on snow and ice and for exceptional slush performance5. Maintains its shape even when worn to continue providing grip in winter conditions.

· FLEX-ICE 2.0™ tread compound: a unique rubber mix for use in a wide range of winter temperatures with a full silica-based compound to maintain flexibility in severe cold climate conditions.

· MICHELIN EverGrip™ technologies: an innovative tread compound with rigid polymer for improved grip on both snow and ice for the duration of the wear life.1

· Two types of full-depth, interlocking 3-D sipes: for an increased claw effect on snow and ice, and for long-lasting biting edges.

The MICHELIN X-Ice SNOW tire replaces Michelin's X-Ice® Xi3™ and Latitude X-Ice® Xi2™ tire lines and will be available Fall 2020 in 82 sizes with speed ratings T and H for passenger vehicles, CUVs and SUVs using 14 to 22-inch rim diameters. An additional 41 sizes will be introduced starting Fall 2021.

For more details https://michelinmedia.com/x-ice-snow/

1 New, at 10,000 km, and when worn to 4 mm and 2 mm tread depth, the MICHELIN® X-Ice® SNOW tire offers shorter snow and ice stopping distances on average than its predecessor, based on third-party snow braking test (between 35 km/h and 5 km/h) and ice braking test (between 30 km/h and 5 km/h), in December 2019 and January 2020: (1) on a Volkswagen® Golf 1.5 TSI comparing the MICHELIN® X-Ice® SNOW tire versus MICHELIN® X-ICE® Xi3 in tire size 205/55R16 94H XL, and (2) on a Volkswagen® Tiguan comparing the MICHELIN® X-Ice® SNOW SUV tire versus MICHELIN® Latitude® X-Ice® Xi2 in tire size 235/55R19 105H XL.2 Based on third-party ice braking test (between 30 km/h and 5 km/h) in December 2019 and January 2020, in a Volkswagen® Tiguan comparing the MICHELIN® X-Ice® SNOW SUV tire versus NOKIAN® Hakkappeliitta R3 SUV in tire size 235/55R19 105H XL. Tires mechanically buffed, then 8,000 km performed in real usage in North Finland, until worn to 4 mm tread depth before being tested.3 Based on third-party longevity tests, in North Finland between October 2019 and January 2020, on a Volkswagen® Golf 1.5 TSI comparing the MICHELIN® X-Ice® SNOW tire versus BRIDGESTONE® Blizzak WS-90, CONTINENTAL® Viking Contact 7, NOKIAN® Hakkappeliitta R3, GOODYEAR® UltraGrip Ice 2, Pirelli® Ice Zero FR in tire size 205/55R16 94H XL. 12,000 kilometres driven per winter is estimated from annual average kilometres driven in Canada per vehicle by Desrosiers Automotive Consultants. A winter season is defined as six months.4 Based on third-party ice braking test on a Volkswagen® Tiguan (between 30 km/h and 5 km/h), in December 2019 and January 2020, comparing: (1) the MICHELIN® X-Ice® SNOW SUV tire versus, BRIDGESTONE® Blizzak DM-V2, CONTINENTAL® Viking Contact 7, NOKIAN® Hakkappeliitta R3 SUV, GOODYEAR® UltraGrip Ice WRT SUV and TOYO® Observe GSI5 in tire size 235/55R19 105H XL and (2) on a Volkswagen® Golf 1.5 TSI comparing the MICHELIN® X-Ice® SNOW tire versus BRIDGESTONE Blizzak WS-90 and Blizzak Ice, CONTINENTAL® Viking Contact 7, NOKIAN® Hakkappeliitta R3, GOODYEAR® UltraGrip Ice 2 and PIRELLI® Ice-Zero FR in tire size 205/55R16 94H XL. All tires mechanically buffed, then 8,000 km performed in real usage in North Finland until worn to 4 mm tread depth before being tested. 5 Based on: (1) internal hydroplaning longitudinal acceleration test performed in France in March 2019, on a Volkswagen® Golf 7 comparing the MICHELIN® X-Ice® SNOW tire versus MICHELIN® X-Ice® Xi3 in tire size 205/55R16 94H XL and on: (2) internal hydroplaning curve test performed in Japan in February 2019, on an AUDI® A4, comparing the MICHELIN® X-Ice® SNOW tire versus MICHELIN® X-Ice® Xi3 in tire size 205/55R16 94H XL.
 
Originally Posted by mightymousetech
Looks promising. Maybe Michelin will finally have a winter tire that is not absolute garbage.

LOL, they are 10X better than Nokian Hakka R2 I have on Tiguan, since you are mentioning garbage.
 
https://autofile.ca/en-ca/auto-arti...tire-designed-by-and-built-for-canadians

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...Most significant, I feel, is the fact the tread pattern and rubber compound are consistent all the way down to the two-millimetre minimum depth of the tread, not just to the four-mm snow bar. Typically, the sipes on other winter tires aren't full depth and the compound transitions to an all-weather mix as the tread wears down. By maintaining the tread and compound, the X-ICE SNOW continues to provide the grip drivers are counting on in winter conditions....

...The track testing provided an opportunity to compare the X-ICE SNOW tire in both new and worn states. The first exercise featured identical AWD Ford Escapes on new X-ICE SNOWs and Nokian Hakkapeliita R3 SUV tires. The course of slaloms, straight runs and sweeping, icy corners, demonstrated the Michelin's better grip as I could feel the Nokians understeering throughout the exercise. The abundance of snow tended to diminish the difference, but it was still apparent....

...For areas where studded tires are permitted, Michelin is also introducing a new product to the Canadian market for 2020. The X-ICE NORTH, which has been available in Europe for two years, is designed to deliver exceptional control in winter conditions.........This high level of performance has been achieved by advances in stud design and placement, as well as a new tread design. The number of studs has doubled to 250 and they're a new design inspired by ones used by Michelin in the WRC Rally series. ...



X-Ice Xi3 on the left, X-ice Snow on the right

[Linked Image from res.cloudinary.com]
 
https://www.wheels.ca/news/testing-the-new-michelin-x-ice-snow-at-circuit-mecaglisse/

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...we'll encourage you to recall that a winter tire's performance is dictated by both molecular and mechanical attributes. The former is a closely guarded secret mixture of compounds that permit the tire to stay flexible in cold temperatures (this is why a Pilot Sport 4S will send you skidding into a snowbank despite its phenomenal summertime grip). The latter refers to features like tread design and the amount of void between tread blocks.......According to Michelin, the new X-Ice Snow carries its mechanical and molecular features all the way through its tread blocks down to a wear measure of 2/32 (about 1.5mm). ..

...X-Ice Snows made for SUVs have some components added to the tire so it can handle the extra weight of an SUV but retains the same rubber compounds and tread patterns...
 
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