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Ethanol free vs top tier for ATV #5350351 02/14/20 10:45 PM
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I had a thought. I have access to straight gas locally with no ethanol. Everyone says use ethanol free fuel in smaller engines and in ATVs. I get why you would want no ethanol but all the stations I have ever seen that offer straight gas is not a top tier fuel. Even if your at a shell or Mobil the straight gas they offer you at that special pump is not name brand and likely not up to minimum additive standards. That’s why they call it “recreational fuel” or “off road fuel”. So if you burn it fast enough would using e10 top tier be better than straight gas no or low additive?


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Re: Ethanol free vs top tier for ATV [Re: Jake777] #5350365 02/14/20 11:01 PM
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Put the unleaded gasoline in 5 or 10 gal jugs with a little Techron in it.


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Re: Ethanol free vs top tier for ATV [Re: Jake777] #5350378 02/14/20 11:32 PM
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I always wondered the same thing. I dont know how it is where you are but pure gas Rec 90 is about 90 cents a gallon more than premium here and I dont know how long it takes for them to sell enough of it to get refills so how long has it been in the tank. And like you say its never at a top tier station or they have a disclaimer like not a xxx product. I did try it in my snowblower but did not see any change and after thinking about it I decided I wanted the antifreeze in snowblower gas anyway incase any snow got in there during a refill.

Re: Ethanol free vs top tier for ATV [Re: Jake777] #5350382 02/14/20 11:45 PM
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I would use the E0 along with a bit of fuel conditioner.


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Re: Ethanol free vs top tier for ATV [Re: Jake777] #5350397 02/15/20 12:16 AM
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ATV is OPE and it is better to use E0.


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Re: Ethanol free vs top tier for ATV [Re: Jake777] #5350491 02/15/20 06:44 AM
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How are you concluding that the E0 has very low or no additives? I'm sure it has the government mandated additive levels at least.


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Re: Ethanol free vs top tier for ATV [Re: Jake777] #5350533 02/15/20 08:19 AM
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You can run premium E10 straight if you’re using it up in a short time. I run premium in my mower and snow thrower with Stabil only because two gallons last awhile for me. I know it’s not the same thing but it’s the same fuel. I’m lucky I have top tier Phillips 66 station that has E0 91 octane. I also have an independent that sells E0 91 that is not listed as top tier and I have no problems.


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Re: Ethanol free vs top tier for ATV [Re: Jake777] #5350680 02/15/20 11:01 AM
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Not sure what kind of ATV..but if it has a carb there should be a fuel shutoff.. add stabil 360 and turn fuel off when storing.

If its fuel injected theres nothing really to harm with ethanol fuels that i know of.

Re: Ethanol free vs top tier for ATV [Re: Jake777] #5350703 02/15/20 11:16 AM
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Re: Ethanol free vs top tier for ATV [Re: Jake777] #5350706 02/15/20 11:19 AM
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E0 & SI1, or buy top-tier and add water to phase-seperate all the ethanol out.


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Re: Ethanol free vs top tier for ATV [Re: Jake777] #5350873 02/15/20 03:36 PM
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I only use ethanol-free premium in my 4-wheelers especially in the winter months where the atvs don't get used often.


In one atv that we had we used regular e10 87 and started to have carb issues, sticking etc. after cleaning it out etc. switched to ethanol free an no longer any issues and that was years ago.



I also use ethanol free in my lawn-mower and pressure washer.


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Re: Ethanol free vs top tier for ATV [Re: Jake777] #5350877 02/15/20 03:44 PM
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Ethanol free and add some Techron power sports or Techron marine fuel treatment to it, that'll add pretty much the same amount of detergents as Chevron pump gas and some fuel stabilizers.

Re: Ethanol free vs top tier for ATV [Re: Jake777] #5351021 02/15/20 07:06 PM
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Anything carbureted should use ethanol free at any cost. Especially if not used often.

Re: Ethanol free vs top tier for ATV [Re: hatt] #5351042 02/15/20 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by hatt
How are you concluding that the E0 has very low or no additives? I'm sure it has the government mandated additive levels at least.


Every station I’ve found E0 has some disclaimer saying it’s not x brand product and remember it’s labeled recreational or off highway. I don’t believe it’s “legal” to distribute e0 for on road use. I could be wrong about that part. I’m just saying if it’s not for automotive use it likely isn’t mandated to have a specific amount of additive. And just knowing how co company’s are if they aren’t forced to they likely won’t. It’s just so generic with E0 fuels. It’s not like you can get top tier full Shell or Mobil or whatever in E0. Anyway this is why I question it. I could be wrong and one of you might have the experience to set me straight but this has always been a thought I have whenever filling my gas tanks for the ATV. By the way it’s a 2014 Grizzly 700 so fuel injected. I use only VP racing SEF fuel for my small outdoor equipment.


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Re: Ethanol free vs top tier for ATV [Re: krismoriah72] #5351043 02/15/20 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by krismoriah72
Not sure what kind of ATV..but if it has a carb there should be a fuel shutoff.. add stabil 360 and turn fuel off when storing.

If its fuel injected theres nothing really to harm with ethanol fuels that i know of.



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