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2018-19 Passat. Valvoline EU recommendations. 0W20 is nowhere #5347843 02/12/20 06:46 AM
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https://valvoline-eu.lubricantadvisor.com/eng/Recommendation/bae17c63b24de02c8054a6259b441c94

Only 5w30, 5w40 and 0w40. Some carrying aces C3. Granted, I couldn't find an engine that matched the 174hp output.

Is Budack only a North American thing?


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Re: 2018-19 Passat. Valvoline EU recommendations. 0W20 is nowhere [Re: wemay] #5347965 02/12/20 09:45 AM
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Just buy the Castrol at the dealer or get it online. Mobil has a VW 508 oil as do several other manufacturers. I have a 2019 Passat with the 2 liter gasser and I only use the Castrol 508 oil 0W-20.


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Re: 2018-19 Passat. Valvoline EU recommendations. 0W20 is nowhere [Re: wemay] #5347967 02/12/20 09:48 AM
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I'm not sure Buddak has anything to do with it,

0W20 ACEA A1 B1, 508 00/509 00 ( also a 2.0L Porsche C20 spec.)

The French Motul I bought for my VW 1.4t was just "OK"
a typical majority PAO that needed something
else with it before it worked well.
I added some Magnatec 5W30 with stunning results.

Absolutely transformational. No Kidding.

There is no reason why a M1 EP or Castrol Edge Extended Performance wouldn't do the trick.

But, for Warranty and that pesky tracer dye that VAG specs....


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Re: 2018-19 Passat. Valvoline EU recommendations. 0W20 is nowhere [Re: wemay] #5348031 02/12/20 11:14 AM
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I guess i assumed the Budack Cycle was the reason for the spec and wondered if the EU Passat used this technology as well. I have no issue with it running 0W-20 VW508.00 especially since i've seen a few UOAs that show it holds up just fine.


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Re: 2018-19 Passat. Valvoline EU recommendations. 0W20 is nowhere [Re: ARCOgraphite] #5348033 02/12/20 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ARCOgraphite

There is no reason why a M1 EP or Castrol Edge Extended Performance wouldn't do the trick.

But, for Warranty and that pesky tracer dye that VAG specs....


Plausible indeed.


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Re: 2018-19 Passat. Valvoline EU recommendations. 0W20 is nowhere [Re: wemay] #5348071 02/12/20 11:58 AM
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if an oil is REQUIRED it must be furnished FREE otherwise just meet the spec!! 200 thou on my 2001 modified 1.8T 300 ft tq + 275 hp using real synthetic 10-30 oils, not todays fake inferior but cheaper offerings

Re: 2018-19 Passat. Valvoline EU recommendations. 0W20 is nowhere [Re: benjy] #5348077 02/12/20 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by benjy
if an oil is REQUIRED it must be furnished FREE otherwise just meet the spec!! 200 thou on my 2001 modified 1.8T 300 ft tq + 275 hp using real synthetic 10-30 oils, not todays fake inferior but cheaper offerings



They don't require an oil brand. They require an oil weight/spec. Lack of green dye doesn't mean voided warranty, but instead indicates a reason to test the oil for lubricant related warranty repairs.


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Re: 2018-19 Passat. Valvoline EU recommendations. 0W20 is nowhere [Re: wemay] #5348098 02/12/20 12:33 PM
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...and having the green dye is part of that VW spec - if it doesn't have it - it doesn't meet the spec.

Re: 2018-19 Passat. Valvoline EU recommendations. 0W20 is nowhere [Re: benjy] #5348108 02/12/20 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by benjy
if an oil is REQUIRED it must be furnished FREE otherwise just meet the spec!! 200 thou on my 2001 modified 1.8T 300 ft tq + 275 hp using real synthetic 10-30 oils, not todays fake inferior but cheaper offerings


That's like arguing a car has 17" wheels but you only want to pay for 15" tires, so they should provide the tires for free.

Re: 2018-19 Passat. Valvoline EU recommendations. 0W20 is nowhere [Re: ARCOgraphite] #5348124 02/12/20 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ARCOgraphite


There is no reason why M1 EP or Castrol Edge Extended Performance wouldn't do the trick.

But, for Warranty and that pesky tracer dye that VAG specs ...



Or you could just get M1 0w20 ESP. It includes that pesky green dye ...


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Re: 2018-19 Passat. Valvoline EU recommendations. 0W20 is nowhere [Re: wemay] #5348139 02/12/20 01:18 PM
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Liqui Moly, Top Tech 6200, 0W-20...

5 liters, 20238

https://www.rockauto.com/en/tools/engine,oil,++++++++++++++++sae+0w-20,1001839


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Re: 2018-19 Passat. Valvoline EU recommendations. 0W20 is nowhere [Re: wemay] #5348152 02/12/20 01:28 PM
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Please somebody trash me for putting 5W30 Magnatec on top of a sump of
Motul Specific 508 00 !


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Re: 2018-19 Passat. Valvoline EU recommendations. 0W20 is nowhere [Re: wemay] #5348161 02/12/20 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by wemay
https://valvoline-eu.lubricantadvisor.com/eng/Recommendation/bae17c63b24de02c8054a6259b441c94

Only 5w30, 5w40 and 0w40. Some carrying aces C3. Granted, I couldn't find an engine that matched the 174hp output.

Is Budack only a North American thing?

99% of engines in the EU since 2009 are specd for C3. It is A3 equivalent, just lower SAPS.
0W20 is American thing mostly. EU manufacturers are experimenting with it in EU for some time, but it is not gaining traction, mostly since CAFE does not exists in EU. EU calculates emission requirements differently and lighter oils are really no advantage in that case. So, yes, EA888 are still specd. for VW 504.00/507.00 and yes, you could use it in your engine.


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Re: 2018-19 Passat. Valvoline EU recommendations. 0W20 is nowhere [Re: ARCOgraphite] #5348163 02/12/20 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ARCOgraphite
Please somebody trash me for putting 5W30 Magnatec on top of a sump of
Motul Specific 508 00 !


Terrible idea. Not part of the spec. How dare you?!

I'd go Motul Specific as well out of fanboy-ism.


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Re: 2018-19 Passat. Valvoline EU recommendations. 0W20 is nowhere [Re: edyvw] #5348200 02/12/20 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by wemay
https://valvoline-eu.lubricantadvisor.com/eng/Recommendation/bae17c63b24de02c8054a6259b441c94

Only 5w30, 5w40 and 0w40. Some carrying aces C3. Granted, I couldn't find an engine that matched the 174hp output.

Is Budack only a North American thing?

99% of engines in the EU since 2009 are specd for C3. It is A3 equivalent, just lower SAPS.
0W20 is American thing mostly. EU manufacturers are experimenting with it in EU for some time, but it is not gaining traction, mostly since CAFE does not exists in EU. EU calculates emission requirements differently and lighter oils are really no advantage in that case. So, yes, EA888 are still specd. for VW 504.00/507.00 and yes, you could use it in your engine.


We've beaten this horse a few times. The manual is pretty strict with respect to 508.00 being the oil used. Other 0W-20s and/or other VW spec'd oils can be used for top-up, but only half a quart.


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