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To Seize or Not To Seize? #5346939 02/11/20 08:57 AM
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I read to not use anti-seize on spark plugs. I read to use anti-seize on spark plugs. Which is correct or does it matter?

If it matters, at this time I am only concerned with Honda's and Toyota's. However, I welcome all responses.


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Re: To Seize or Not To Seize? [Re: Gebo] #5346946 02/11/20 09:09 AM
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Not needed, and may cause issues. Most plugs have a coating on them to prevent seizures.

Now ford has always had "Iggy" issues

you can decide what to do there

Most important is don't bend secondary wires if you are not replacing them, allow then to lie naturally

And Keep the plug insulators surgically clean.

Requires clean gloves and maybe a last second alcohol wipe in a radial motion.


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Re: To Seize or Not To Seize? [Re: Gebo] #5346960 02/11/20 09:36 AM
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If the plug threads are plated and plug manufacturer discourages it then do not use anti-seize. Anti-seize acts as a torque multiplier which increases the risk of an over-torque and consequently stripped threads.

Last edited by BMWTurboDzl; 02/11/20 09:36 AM.

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Re: To Seize or Not To Seize? [Re: Gebo] #5346963 02/11/20 09:38 AM
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I only use Denso plugs. Are they plated?

The anti-seize I have is aluminum based.

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Re: To Seize or Not To Seize? [Re: Gebo] #5346964 02/11/20 09:41 AM
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Re: To Seize or Not To Seize? [Re: BMWTurboDzl] #5346968 02/11/20 09:48 AM
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It doesn't work for a 2008 Honda CR-V. It only says "no results found" when searching under the ignition.

But I do appreciate your helping me. Thanks!


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Re: To Seize or Not To Seize? [Re: Gebo] #5346975 02/11/20 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Gebo
It doesn't work for a 2008 Honda CR-V. It only says "no results found" when searching under the ignition.

But I do appreciate your helping me. Thanks!

Search pn#?


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Re: To Seize or Not To Seize? [Re: Gebo] #5346987 02/11/20 10:07 AM
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NGK states that the plugs I bought for my motorcycles and lawnmower were plated and not to use anti-seize. It was in their FAQs. I don't remember it specifically stated on their plugs' item webpage.


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Re: To Seize or Not To Seize? [Re: Gebo] #5346990 02/11/20 10:14 AM
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Use anti-seize, don't use anti-seize, it's been discussed countless times here and it has never reached any consensus.

However, every once in a while we do get a thread about a spark plug being difficult to remove or damaging the threads, even the coated ones. Curiously enough, the vivid proponents of "manufacturers know best" don't seem to participate in those.

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/foru...38828/stuck-spark-plug-toyota-4-7-tundra

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2844805&page=all

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/foru...one-spark-plug-wont-come-out#Post5133371

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Re: To Seize or Not To Seize? [Re: Ride_Red] #5346991 02/11/20 10:14 AM
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What is the harm? I have always used anti seize without any issues. I also know people who have had plugs seize due to dissimilar metal corrosion. I choose not to take a chance.


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Re: To Seize or Not To Seize? [Re: Gebo] #5347020 02/11/20 10:47 AM
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[Now ford has always had "Iggy" issues] Explain lggy issues


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Re: To Seize or Not To Seize? [Re: Gebo] #5347041 02/11/20 11:12 AM
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I do it all wrong...
I spray a little WD40 to clean the threads from old anti-seize, etc.
I brush just a wisp of anti-seize on the plug threads.
Start plugs by hand with a rubber installer that will not cross thread plug.
Run 'em down by hand; any resistance must be fixed.
Finish with Snap On 3/8" torque wrench set to the low end (or a little less) of the factory torque value.
Your CR-V is 13 pound feet as I recall.
I use dielectric grease on the plug boot.


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Re: To Seize or Not To Seize? [Re: Gebo] #5347044 02/11/20 11:18 AM
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I still put some on but very little. I only do one small area on the plugs threads and thats all.
Just enough to give it a little more to the surface so they come out without damage in 50-100k, but not to thick to really change the torque specs.


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I’ve always used antisieze , always. Never a problem. Just a small dab...

Re: To Seize or Not To Seize? [Re: KrisZ] #5347058 02/11/20 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by KrisZ
Use anti-seize, don't use anti-seize, it's been discussed countless times here and it has never reached any consensus.

However, every once in a while we do get a thread about a spark plug being difficult to remove or damaging the threads, even the coated ones. Curiously enough, the vivid proponents of "manufacturers know best" don't seem to participate in those.


I think the manufacturers get away with it because they recommend miles and years so if you change it every 6-7 years regardless of miles, then they won't seize from being in there too long.

Never really thought about it, never used it, never had a problem.

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