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Mobil-1 ESP or Rotella MV T6 5w30 in gas-only vehicles #5344330 02/08/20 07:18 AM
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Anyone here using either Mobil-1 ESP 5W30 or Rotella Multi-Vehicle T6 5w30 in a gas-only / GDI / TGDI engine?
Please give us a review on either one. Please limit comments to gasoline-only engines.


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Re: Mobil-1 ESP or Rotella MV T6 5w30 in gas-only vehicles [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5344335 02/08/20 07:33 AM
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I am running ESP in my 2018 Hyundai Kona AWD 1.6T that gets very spirited driving on a daily basis. I also have run a couple oil analysis on it because it has the fuel dilution problem all small GDI turbos have. Good #'s so far and I still have 12 bottles in my stash. In the winter I dump at 3,000 and the summer 3,750. I am happy with it. I go back and forth on going to Pennzoil 5w-40 Euro, but then I go "my #'s are fine and I have the 100C and HTSH at 3.5 I want, so I keep saying to myself should I change, yes, no, yes, no."

https://www.hyundaikonaforum.com/showcase/2018-kona-awd-1-6t-lowered.1162/


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Re: Mobil-1 ESP or Rotella MV T6 5w30 in gas-only vehicles [Re: Mainia] #5344339 02/08/20 07:38 AM
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Which of the two 5w30 brands have you used?
Thanks for showing your vehicle in the link BTW...


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Re: Mobil-1 ESP or Rotella MV T6 5w30 in gas-only vehicles [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5344343 02/08/20 07:44 AM
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Mobil1 5w-30 ESP.


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Re: Mobil-1 ESP or Rotella MV T6 5w30 in gas-only vehicles [Re: Mainia] #5344350 02/08/20 07:53 AM
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Nice to see the 5W30 ESP has the same Phosphorous level as Mobil-1 EP.
Mobil-1 Products Sheet

Being a SN Spec instead of SN Plus, I need to push myself into trying it this spring. My Owners Manual allows SN Certs, so why not?


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Re: Mobil-1 ESP or Rotella MV T6 5w30 in gas-only vehicles [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5344351 02/08/20 07:55 AM
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Last I checked neither of these oils are SN Pus for DI engines. Not sure how the Bittoggers have embraced SN plus. Seems the main thing is the need for low Calcium which Rotella MV is, at 1250 ppm. Not sure about Mobil 1 ESP.


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Re: Mobil-1 ESP or Rotella MV T6 5w30 in gas-only vehicles [Re: Mainia] #5344375 02/08/20 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Mainia
Mobil1 5w-30 ESP.

And you "dump" it at 3k?


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Re: Mobil-1 ESP or Rotella MV T6 5w30 in gas-only vehicles [Re: ka9mnx] #5344396 02/08/20 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ka9mnx
Originally Posted by Mainia
Mobil1 5w-30 ESP.

And you "dump" it at 3k?

3750 is Severe Duty in HyunKia manuals. Besides, TGDI's in Korean makes can produce some scary, black-as-night oil in 3K, noted with stop&go city driving and long, cold start idles.

I was interested in a switch for a few hours. Now I've decided to stick with SN Plus oils in my two HyunKias. I'll bow-out of this thread now..... thanks for the replies

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Re: Mobil-1 ESP or Rotella MV T6 5w30 in gas-only vehicles [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5344413 02/08/20 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
Anyone here using either Mobil-1 ESP 5W30 or Rotella Multi-Vehicle T6 5w30 in a gas-only / GDI / TGDI engine?
Please give us a review on either one. Please limit comments to gasoline-only engines.

The only way to give a review is to run the same oil for 200-300K(miles) and make a judgement then. However since almost no one does that (oil skippers) how can you get an accurate report?

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M1 5-20HM
2017 Ford Fusion 86K
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Re: Mobil-1 ESP or Rotella MV T6 5w30 in gas-only vehicles [Re: ka9mnx] #5344426 02/08/20 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ka9mnx
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Mobil1 5w-30 ESP.

And you "dump" it at 3k?


As Triple_Se7en stated, Hyundai's abuse of oil is correct. In Minnesota winters, short hwy on ramp 1/8th mile away from home that you need to get up to speed ASAP, and 17lbs boost at 1,450 rpm, I need to somewhat pre warm my car up every morning for 4 mins before going to work. Well over 5% fuel dilution which now is a "yawn" after seeing no wear through UOA. And thrashing the motor with being on boost more then most, it is the cost of doing business in a car that is in "Sport Mode" most of its life.


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Re: Mobil-1 ESP or Rotella MV T6 5w30 in gas-only vehicles [Re: tig1] #5344427 02/08/20 09:18 AM
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I never asked for a thorough, 200k report. See poster's Mainia's reply for an example.
Why do you attend this thread? Are you interested in removing yourself from Mobil-1 oils? Entertaining buying a light diesel vehicle?

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Re: Mobil-1 ESP or Rotella MV T6 5w30 in gas-only vehicles [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5344438 02/08/20 09:29 AM
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Im assuming Mobil 1 ESP 5w30 would work well in a 2.4 Ecotec DI engine, would it not? Is this oil equivalent to Pennzoil Platinum 5W30 Euro?


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Re: Mobil-1 ESP or Rotella MV T6 5w30 in gas-only vehicles [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5344446 02/08/20 09:35 AM
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I'm hoping either this thread or Gokham's thread below provides you a reasonable answer. Due to my lack of knowledge on either of these oils, I've bowed out offering opinions on either one.
I'm as interested as you.....

Member Gokham's Thread Click Right Here

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Re: Mobil-1 ESP or Rotella MV T6 5w30 in gas-only vehicles [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5344453 02/08/20 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
Anyone here using either Mobil-1 ESP 5W30 or Rotella Multi-Vehicle T6 5w30 in a gas-only / GDI / TGDI engine?
Please give us a review on either one. Please limit comments to gasoline-only engines.


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Timely thread I can contribute to.

Here is a link to a recent UOA on T6 5w-30 MV off a 2019 Subaru FB20 engine.

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/foru...otella-5w-30-mv-5820-miles-o#Post5328387

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2019 Subaru Impreza 5-door Rotella T6 MV 5w-30 PBL14615 filter
2018 Honda Clarity PHEV Castrol Bio-Synthetic 0w-20 PBL14610 filter
2017 Toyota Rav4 Hybrid Castrol Bio-Synthetic 0w-20 PBL25608 filter
Re: Mobil-1 ESP or Rotella MV T6 5w30 in gas-only vehicles [Re: tig1] #5344465 02/08/20 09:56 AM
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I tend to run the same oil/filter combo a minimum of three times as a matter of course for data consistency. Juts the way I do it.

I will have another T6 5w-30 MV UOA in about 6 months since I went back with the same combo. We'll see what the numbers show.


2019 Subaru Impreza 5-door Rotella T6 MV 5w-30 PBL14615 filter
2018 Honda Clarity PHEV Castrol Bio-Synthetic 0w-20 PBL14610 filter
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