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anything bad about CITGO or harvest king? #5342686 02/06/20 12:55 PM
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im looking to get some dexron iii for my truck and have the choice between citgo, harvest king, or valvoline. all 3 have dexron 3 licensing on the back and are dex/merc fluids. does it make a diff which i get? i assume all dex fluid is very similar but i just wanna hear if anything wrong with going with the harvest king. its dirt cheap. thx

i can get harvest king for $30 for 7.5L
motomaster/citgo is $90 for 20L
valvoline is prob $40-50/ 5-6L

thx

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Originally Posted by apollo18
all 3 have dexron 3 licensing on the back and are dex/merc fluids. does it make a diff which i get?

If they are all truly licensed like you say, get the one that's readily available and/or lowest price. Licensing means the automaker that controls that spec says the fluid is 100% acceptable.

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There are VOAs here on the Harvest King oils, and they look fine. If it's appropriately rated - it should be good to go.

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If it is licensed and meets the specifications of the manufacturer, the least expensive is the way to go.
Anything else is merely a wallet flush.


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Re: anything bad about CITGO or harvest king? [Re: apollo18] #5342709 02/06/20 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by apollo18
im looking to get some dexron iii for my truck and have the choice between citgo, harvest king, or valvoline. all 3 have dexron 3 licensing on the back and are dex/merc fluids. does it make a diff which i get? i assume all dex fluid is very similar but i just wanna hear if anything wrong with going with the harvest king. its dirt cheap. thx

i can get harvest king for $30 for 7.5L
motomaster/citgo is $90 for 20L
valvoline is prob $40-50/ 5-6L

thx

Pretty sure there's no licensing left for Dex III, the licenses all expired at the end of 2011, GM licenses Dex VI as a replacement, so they'll all be "approved for use". I've had no issues with Citgo products, and WM is switching a lot of ST oils to Citgo, I would say their Dex/Merc is likely as good as anyone elses.


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Still trying to find out what HK is. Dexos number on bottle isn't on Dexos supplier page. Think it's Warren Oil. Emailed supplier but they didn't respond. Trans fluid might still be Citgo.


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Re: anything bad about CITGO or harvest king? [Re: apollo18] #5342714 02/06/20 01:36 PM
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Wally World is switching from WPP to Citgo? Or Amalie to Citgo? Haven't heard that!


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Re: anything bad about CITGO or harvest king? [Re: bullwinkle] #5342716 02/06/20 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bullwinkle
Pretty sure there's no licensing left for Dex III, the licenses all expired at the end of 2011, GM licenses Dex VI as a replacement, so they'll all be "approved for use". I've had no issues with Citgo products, and WM is switching a lot of ST oils to Citgo, I would say their Dex/Merc is likely as good as anyone elses.

Correct, there is no such thing as a licensed DEXRON III product. DEXRON VI is the current license and this license supersedes DEXRON III.


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Re: anything bad about CITGO or harvest king? [Re: apollo18] #5342759 02/06/20 02:36 PM
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Since there’s no licensing what’s does it mean when it says for dex/merc or suitable for dexron iii or something like this “For use in vehicles previously serviceable by DEXRON® III/MERCON® brands Suitable where Ford ESP-M2C138CJ or ESP-M2C166H is specified Meets Requirements for Allison C-4”

Does that still mean it meets the dexron III specs and is good as any other one? Or does it just mean it’s good enough and not actually confirmed by GM

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Originally Posted by kschachn
Originally Posted by bullwinkle
Pretty sure there's no licensing left for Dex III, the licenses all expired at the end of 2011, GM licenses Dex VI as a replacement, so they'll all be "approved for use". I've had no issues with Citgo products, and WM is switching a lot of ST oils to Citgo, I would say their Dex/Merc is likely as good as anyone elses.

Correct, there is no such thing as a licensed DEXRON III product.

What if it had a Dexron III license when it was current ? It met the specs or requirements then, theoretically nothing should be different....

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Originally Posted by csandste
Wally World is switching from WPP to Citgo? Or Amalie to Citgo? Haven't heard that!

Some of the diesel oil has already made the switch, the ST 15W40 gallons now have a Citgo MSDS.
https://www.msdsdigital.com/supertech%E2%84%A2-heavy-duty-engine-oil-sae-15w-40-msds


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https://www.peaveymart.com/Multi-Purpose-ATF-Fluid-757L-P25935.aspx

https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/...ic-transmission-fluid-20-l-0281507p.html

here are the fluids i was looking to use,

are they both equally good dexron iii? or should i get a name brand.

i heard that people say that all dex 3 is basically the same but is that only if they have the license? or is it good enough if the label says dexron on the front/back

thx

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I would think since its pointed out about GM license being gone, DEXRON III is fine. I use Carquest brand in my Camry power steering smile


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Originally Posted by apollo18
i heard that people say that all dex 3 is basically the same but is that only if they have the license? or is it good enough if the label says dexron on the front/back

Are you reading any of the posts in this thread (and the other one) or just making random responses?


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Re: anything bad about CITGO or harvest king? [Re: hallstevenson] #5343006 02/06/20 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by hallstevenson
What if it had a Dexron III license when it was current ? It met the specs or requirements then, theoretically nothing should be different....

Well of course it met the licensing requirements when it was manufactured.


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