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Pennzoil Platinum Euro L 0W-30/5W-30 Full Synthetic #5342451 02/06/20 06:24 AM
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The Blackstone report highlights the difference between the 0W30 and the 5W30.

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Re: Pennzoil Platinum Euro L 0W-30/5W-30 Full Synthetic [Re: Navi] #5342492 02/06/20 07:21 AM
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Thanks for the post and for paying for the VOA. I have it in my Burb with a 6.0.
It does a cold start every afternoon using the remote starter. Lowest temp this January was -24 C. 5w30 would suffice, but this was a touch thinner at that temp. smile


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Re: Pennzoil Platinum Euro L 0W-30/5W-30 Full Synthetic [Re: Navi] #5342496 02/06/20 07:26 AM
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I have several qts of this to use up in an 08 impala. Is the moly being so low a concern?

Re: Pennzoil Platinum Euro L 0W-30/5W-30 Full Synthetic [Re: D1dad] #5342526 02/06/20 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by D1dad
I have several qts of this to use up in an 08 impala. Is the moly being so low a concern?

If it carries a needed specification or approval, why would the composition be a concern?


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Re: Pennzoil Platinum Euro L 0W-30/5W-30 Full Synthetic [Re: Navi] #5342543 02/06/20 09:10 AM
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Has anyone asked BS is they can test for the additives used in ACEA CX oils which are used in lieu of what is commonly found in ACEA Ax/Bx?


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Re: Pennzoil Platinum Euro L 0W-30/5W-30 Full Synthetic [Re: Navi] #5342558 02/06/20 09:28 AM
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+1 on thanks for paying to do a VOA on this oil. I'm planning to switch to it next OCI.


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BMW X3 x28d // 52,xxx miles // 35 MPG // TBD
Re: Pennzoil Platinum Euro L 0W-30/5W-30 Full Synthetic [Re: Navi] #5342594 02/06/20 10:34 AM
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When I pull up the PDF to look at the KV @ 100*C it shows 13. How old was the oil that was tested ?

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Based on Blackstone's report, the [email protected]*C is 12.38 which you could call 12.4 and flashpoint of 470*F or 243.3*C.

I don't see either of those value differences, compared to the PDF, as significant.


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Re: Pennzoil Platinum Euro L 0W-30/5W-30 Full Synthetic [Re: andreigbs] #5342611 02/06/20 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by andreigbs
Based on Blackstone's report, the [email protected]*C is 12.38 which you could call 12.4 and flashpoint of 470*F or 243.3*C.

I don't see either of those value differences, compared to the PDF, as significant.

Yes, flashpoint determination is very subjective and has a high repeatability value per the ASTM procedure. It also doesn't have much relevancy for oil service.


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Re: Pennzoil Platinum Euro L 0W-30/5W-30 Full Synthetic [Re: kschachn] #5342635 02/06/20 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by kschachn
Originally Posted by D1dad
I have several qts of this to use up in an 08 impala. Is the moly being so low a concern?

If it carries a needed specification or approval, why would the composition be a concern?

Because moly...
Some people are just insistent on it. Which never really made any sense to me.
Why is it that this anti wear additive is the one that many people focus on?
My question is not pointed at D1dad in particular but this example just highlights the phenomenon.

For those out there that would make a comment like this, can you please enlighten me?

Thanks!!!
cheers

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Re: Pennzoil Platinum Euro L 0W-30/5W-30 Full Synthetic [Re: Navi] #5342659 02/06/20 12:14 PM
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What other specs does Euro meet over regular PP 5W30?
Is this for diesel engines?
I started seeing Euro L in local WM recently.

Re: Pennzoil Platinum Euro L 0W-30/5W-30 Full Synthetic [Re: Navi] #5342671 02/06/20 12:29 PM
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Yes, the Euro L applies to modern diesels as well as gas engines. Here are the relevant specs:

- BMW LL-04
- MB 229.31 and 229.51

Note that there is an additional product called Euro LX (a 0w30) which carries these specs:
- MB 229.31, 229.51, 229.52
- VW 504/507
- Porsche C30

Some might say the LX is an even better oil, it certainly is harder to find. You can generally find the Euro L on the shelf at Wal-mart.


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At one time there were three flavors available:

Euro L 5w30 is Dexos2 but has no VW approvals.
Euro LX 0w30 is VW 504/507 but no Dexos 2
Euro AV 5w-30 is VW 502.00/505.01/505.00

Not sure what that's all about.


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Re: Pennzoil Platinum Euro L 0W-30/5W-30 Full Synthetic [Re: Navi] #5342703 02/06/20 01:26 PM
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Euro L 5w30



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Euro LX 0w30

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