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Favorite Oil Analysis Provider ? #5341047 02/04/20 04:52 PM
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I have no experience with oil analysis providers - who do you like to use and why ?


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Polaris Labs / Oil Analyzers Inc. for me. WearCheck or SPEEDiagnostix would be my next choice. I avoid Blackstone due to price and inconsistent results.


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I use Polaris Labs. Never tried Blackstone because there has been disagreements in the past with oil blenders about ZDDP content. Blackstone tends to read low on that.


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Napa/Wix sells them... I Believe they are done by ALS . Don't have paperwork here in front of me but have used the a lot over the years.


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Re: Favorite Oil Analysis Provider ? [Re: ChrisD46] #5341197 02/04/20 07:12 PM
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I use Polaris and I am happy with them


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Re: Favorite Oil Analysis Provider ? [Re: ChrisD46] #5341248 02/04/20 07:50 PM
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I like Blackstone. Their commentary is typically more informative, IMO. I also get my results pretty quickly from them, since I'm not shipping far from their HQ.

Last I looked, their price was less than Polaris. What are they charging now?


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Re: Favorite Oil Analysis Provider ? [Re: IndyFan] #5341256 02/04/20 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by IndyFan
I like Blackstone. Their commentary is typically more informative, IMO. I also get my results pretty quickly from them, since I'm not shipping far from their HQ.

Last I looked, their price was less than Polaris. What are they charging now?


I don't pay attention to the comments on UOAs. The report is usually pretty self-explanatory. Blackstone once made a fuss in the comments about having 300+ ppm lead, claiming abnormal bearing wear, and completely ignoring where I noted that the engine used leaded race fuel. smirk2

The price for Blackstone doesn't include TBN. That's $10 extra. (I think) Polaris includes TBN, oxidation, and nitration at no additional charge.


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I like Blackstone. Their commentary is typically more informative, IMO. I also get my results pretty quickly from them, since I'm not shipping far from their HQ.

Last I looked, their price was less than Polaris. What are they charging now?


I don't pay attention to the comments on UOAs. The report is usually pretty self-explanatory. Blackstone once made a fuss in the comments about having 300+ ppm lead, claiming abnormal bearing wear, and completely ignoring where I noted that the engine used leaded race fuel. smirk2

The price for Blackstone doesn't include TBN. That's $10 extra. (I think) Polaris includes TBN, oxidation, and nitration at no additional charge.


I've never had anything like that happen. I also don't need TBN. My OCI's are not long enough to worry about that with the oil I'm running. Even on my Ecoboost, which gets 10k OCI's on Mobil 1 5w30 EP, hasn't pushed the TBN to a low enough number to worry. I did a couple UOA's with TBN and they came back fine, so I don't need it. That is a nice feature of Polaris, though. if TBN is needed.

So what's the Polaris price? Last I checked it was a few bucks more than Blackstone. If you don't need TBN, then it can't be said Polaris is cheaper.

I've also many times emailed Blackstone with questions and they respond very quickly and with very thorough answers and explanations.


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Re: Favorite Oil Analysis Provider ? [Re: ChrisD46] #5341284 02/04/20 08:27 PM
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I like Terry Dyson at dysonanalysis.com. The fact that he includes a .wav file explaining the PDF report in detail is really nice.


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Re: Favorite Oil Analysis Provider ? [Re: ChrisD46] #5341365 02/04/20 10:01 PM
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NAPA is $16 and WIX is a little cheaper and they include TBN. You don't need to pay the prices Blackstone charges.

Polaris is only reasonable is you buy a 10 pack of their test kits. OAI uses Polaris and is fine but a little high priced.

I would pay extra to not get the Blackstone comments. They are annoying. But I don't use Blackstone.


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Re: Favorite Oil Analysis Provider ? [Re: ChrisD46] #5341428 02/04/20 11:26 PM
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WIX Oil Analysis Kit for $12.47 - both NAPA & WIX use ALS Labs:

amazon link here

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*Now $22 ... I believe I will try the NAPA kit (I mile away) for $15 ... I appreciate the replies !
Originally Posted by discountdon
WIX Oil Analysis Kit for $12.47 - both NAPA & WIX use ALS Labs:

amazon link here

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Originally Posted by discountdon
WIX Oil Analysis Kit for $12.47 - both NAPA & WIX use ALS Labs:

amazon link here

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Originally Posted by ChrisD46
*Now $22 ... I believe I will try the NAPA kit (I mile away) for $15 ... I appreciate the replies !


when I snagged two last week both amazon fulfillment & this amazon seller had over a dozen in stock at that quoted price:

Froedge Machine & Supply, Inc.

direct link here to their page

$9.58 + shipping - they also have an additional 10% discount code ( REORDER10 ) slobber

for those who can wait until they get inventory that is...


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ALS Labs currently have these following locations you can send your samples to:

Atlanta, Georgia
Valley View, Ohio
Portland, Oregon

Burlington, Ontario
Edmonton, Alberta


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I've only used Blackstone

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