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Schaeffer 0W-40 for Mopar #5340098 02/03/20 03:43 PM
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Went to the shop today to buy a Baldwin filter (B329) for my 392. While I was there I asked if they had any 0W-40 in stock. The owner called Schaeffer's directly to ask about it and he said it was just newly introduced into their line. Apparently the owner had recently purchased a Challenger and didn't have an oil which met it's spec, so............now there is!lol! It's my preferred oil and the only oil my engine builder fills his engines with(along with the Baldwin filters) regardless of make/model/displacement. I've always had good results with it as well... banana


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Re: Schaeffer 0W-40 for Mopar [Re: HiPowerShooter] #5340189 02/03/20 05:40 PM
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We use Schaeffers Oils in our vehicles as well


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Re: Schaeffer 0W-40 for Mopar [Re: HiPowerShooter] #5340266 02/03/20 07:26 PM
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Off topic but I thought the B34 was the Baldwin that fit mopar. Do the new Challengers take the same filter as the Ford Fl820s?

Re: Schaeffer 0W-40 for Mopar [Re: HiPowerShooter] #5340268 02/03/20 07:28 PM
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It's good stuff it's what I use in my 6.4 Hemi. Love Schaeffer's.

Re: Schaeffer 0W-40 for Mopar [Re: mpgo4th] #5340567 02/04/20 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by mpgo4th
Off topic but I thought the B34 was the Baldwin that fit mopar. Do the new Challengers take the same filter as the Ford Fl820s?


Mine (2014, 2016, 2020) have all taken the XG2, which yes, crosses to the FL-820S.


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Re: Schaeffer 0W-40 for Mopar [Re: mpgo4th] #5341394 02/04/20 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by mpgo4th
Off topic but I thought the B34 was the Baldwin that fit mopar. Do the new Challengers take the same filter as the Ford Fl820s?


Usually there are a few which will fit. The 329 is just a little bigger(maybe 1/4" longer) so I use it as they have those on the shelf at the shop. Works fine.


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Re: Schaeffer 0W-40 for Mopar [Re: HiPowerShooter] #5341477 02/05/20 02:49 AM
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Is this 0W-40 low-calcium for use in GTDI engines as well? Any idea if it is Dexos2?

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Originally Posted by metroplex
Is this 0W-40 low-calcium for use in GTDI engines as well? Any idea if it is Dexos2?

https://www.gmdexos.com/brands/dexos2/index.html

And it would display the correct dexos logo on the label if it was.


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Re: Schaeffer 0W-40 for Mopar [Re: metroplex] #5341744 02/05/20 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by metroplex
Is this 0W-40 low-calcium for use in GTDI engines as well? Any idea if it is Dexos2?

I do know but the shop owner and engine builder of 40 years owns and rebuilds VW diesels...and it's the only oil(not specifically the 0w-40) he's ever used in them. He's had at least one of them go 400k before he sold it. I don't think Schaeffers pays GM the money for a sticker. The people who know how well it works use it regardless.

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Originally Posted by HiPowerShooter
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Is this 0W-40 low-calcium for use in GTDI engines as well? Any idea if it is Dexos2?

I do know but the shop owner and engine builder of 40 years owns and rebuilds VW diesels...and it's the only oil he's ever used in them. He's had at least one of them go 400k before he sold it. I don't think Schaeffers pays GM the money for a sticker. The people who know how well it works use it regardless.


Only reason I ask about Dexos2 is that Dexos2 is supposed to have LSPI testing added, so the lower calcium would be part of the formulation.

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Originally Posted by metroplex
Originally Posted by HiPowerShooter
Originally Posted by metroplex
Is this 0W-40 low-calcium for use in GTDI engines as well? Any idea if it is Dexos2?

I do know but the shop owner and engine builder of 40 years owns and rebuilds VW diesels...and it's the only oil he's ever used in them. He's had at least one of them go 400k before he sold it. I don't think Schaeffers pays GM the money for a sticker. The people who know how well it works use it regardless.


Only reason I ask about Dexos2 is that Dexos2 is supposed to have LSPI testing added, so the lower calcium would be part of the formulation.



You are confusing Dexos 2 with Dexos 1, Gen 2.

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Only Chrysler specs given.

Meets and exceeds the following specifications and manufacturers’ requirements:
• API Service Classification SN
• Chrysler MS-12633
• Chrysler MS-10850
• Chrysler MS-10725
Supreme 9000 Full Synthetic Engine Oil SAE 0W-40 is not recommended for use in those
applications that specify engine oil that meets JASO MA or MB.
Supreme 9000 Full Synthetic SAE 0W-40 meets the needs of Chrysler 6.1L, 6.2L Hellcat Supercharged
and 6.4L SRT engines, where Chrysler MS-12633 is specified. Supreme 9000 SAE 0W-40 may also be
used in SRT engines originally recommending Chrysler MS-10725 and MS-10850.


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Re: Schaeffer 0W-40 for Mopar [Re: HiPowerShooter] #5342317 02/05/20 11:14 PM
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Re: Schaeffer 0W-40 for Mopar [Re: Jimmy_Russells] #5342396 02/06/20 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy_Russells
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Originally Posted by HiPowerShooter
Originally Posted by metroplex
Is this 0W-40 low-calcium for use in GTDI engines as well? Any idea if it is Dexos2?

I do know but the shop owner and engine builder of 40 years owns and rebuilds VW diesels...and it's the only oil he's ever used in them. He's had at least one of them go 400k before he sold it. I don't think Schaeffers pays GM the money for a sticker. The people who know how well it works use it regardless.


Only reason I ask about Dexos2 is that Dexos2 is supposed to have LSPI testing added, so the lower calcium would be part of the formulation.



You are confusing Dexos 2 with Dexos 1, Gen 2.


No I am not. I didn't have time to find something more official but there was a website that said Dexos2 will include LSPI testing towards the end of 2018/early 2019.

I only found this in a rush:
https://www.fuelsandlubes.com/fli-article/the-new-gm-dexos2-its-complicated/

Yes I know the difference between Dexos 1 Gen 2 and Dexos 2. Dexos2 0W-40 is what GM calls for the Corvette, while Dexos1 Gen 2 5W-30 is what GM calls out for its other applications (usually 5W-30, like with ATS-V).

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It's good stuff it's what I use in my 6.4 Hemi. Love Schaeffer's.

Have you ever done a UOA?


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