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Motul vs Shell #5335442 01/29/20 01:20 PM
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hey hey people smile
i have an opel astra k 1.6 litre CDTI (B16DTH GM diesel engine). opel tells me the engine oil specs as follows: 5w-30 and dexos®2 certified.

as of now i have Motul 8100 X-clean EFE in the sump. thinking of trying Shell Helix Ultra Professional AG since i am due an oil change soon.

would you say one is better than the other? (they seem really close. then again, i don't know much about oils)

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(left: motul | right: shell)


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Re: Motul vs Shell [Re: yagciogullari] #5335447 01/29/20 01:26 PM
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Both are dexos 2 licensed.

What's the weather like there in Istanbul?


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Re: Motul vs Shell [Re: kschachn] #5335454 01/29/20 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by kschachn
Both are dexos 2 licensed.

What's the weather like there in Istanbul?


mild i suppose


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Re: Motul vs Shell [Re: yagciogullari] #5335456 01/29/20 01:33 PM
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Welcome, without looking at any other data but what you posted I would continue using the Motul.


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Re: Motul vs Shell [Re: yagciogullari] #5335461 01/29/20 01:36 PM
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What does "glug glug glug" mean?


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Re: Motul vs Shell [Re: sloinker] #5335466 01/29/20 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by sloinker
Welcome, without looking at any other data but what you posted I would continue using the Motul.


thank you.
how can i find more detailed specs? this is what the vendor sites show.

Originally Posted by kschachn
What does "glug glug glug" mean?


the sound of engine oil being poured smile


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Re: Motul vs Shell [Re: yagciogullari] #5335468 01/29/20 01:49 PM
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I would choose Shell since it is GTL oil (vs gr III for Motul)...

And if you can get it there....I would choose AV-L (VW 504/507)

https://www.shell.com/motorist/oils...helix-ultra-professional-av-l-5w-30.html

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Re: Motul vs Shell [Re: kschachn] #5335474 01/29/20 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by kschachn
What does "glug glug glug" mean?


Pouring oil when the container is held the wrong way smile


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Re: Motul vs Shell [Re: yagciogullari] #5335487 01/29/20 02:14 PM
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How does the sound of oil being poured pertain to this discussion?


Both good oils. Your engine won’t know the difference as long as specs are met.

There is no best


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Re: Motul vs Shell [Re: PimTac] #5335499 01/29/20 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by PimTac

There is no best


Interesting thinking from the American smile


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Re: Motul vs Shell [Re: Kamele0N] #5335593 01/29/20 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Kamele0N
Originally Posted by PimTac

There is no best


Interesting thinking from the American smile

Why is that?


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Re: Motul vs Shell [Re: yagciogullari] #5335626 01/29/20 04:48 PM
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Just an interesting thinking for a nation that dont Acknowledge anything lesser than 1st place smile

Either you are a hero....or a zero mindset....so I just "wow-ed" there....


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Re: Motul vs Shell [Re: yagciogullari] #5335818 01/29/20 08:17 PM
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With both being Dexos2 C3, I prefer Shell to Motul for its GTL base.

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Stick with the Motul. It resists burn-off better.


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Re: Motul vs Shell [Re: zeng] #5336010 01/29/20 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by zeng
With both being Dexos2 C3, I prefer Shell to Motul for its GTL base.


does GTL based oils really make that difference or is it just a marketing gimmick?


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