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Re: Uh Oh. Subaru Front Halfshaft CV Going Bad [Re: ARCOgraphite] #5334764 01/28/20 04:05 PM
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I would stick with OEM, Raxles (as mentioned above) or CVJREMAN.com. Let us know what you decide and a follow up report if you have a chance.


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Re: Uh Oh. Subaru Front Halfshaft CV Going Bad [Re: ARCOgraphite] #5334776 01/28/20 04:30 PM
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I just did one on a friend's car a month or so ago. Same symptoms, rattling around turns. I believe their's is a 2014 Crosstrek.

Took about 30 minutes without removing anything - Just the axle nut.

Didn';t even need to drain the fluid as none came out of the case when we popped the axle out.

He chose to get an aftermarket. With how easy it is to go in, I don't blame him.


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Re: Uh Oh. Subaru Front Halfshaft CV Going Bad [Re: ARCOgraphite] #5334779 01/28/20 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ARCOgraphite

Are any of the aftermarket axle+CV assemblies reliable?


Not unless they cost almost as much as OEM, or a junkyard pull from the same generation (for 2017 this means a collision salvage or a flood car).


Originally Posted by ARCOgraphite

Dealer wants $680-

The Subaru part goes for $400- (!)



For $280 to install it sounds like a reasonable price. You can always buy the axle and bring it to another place to install if it saves you $150 or $100.


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Re: Uh Oh. Subaru Front Halfshaft CV Going Bad [Re: ls973800] #5334789 01/28/20 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ls973800
Wife hears noise once and a while, dealer assessed at the recent 60K service that the front right outer CV was failing.

How close to the 60K service was it? Your factory powertrain warranty covers this part for 5 years or 60000 miles.

If under the 60000 you have warranty. If just a little bit over, the dealer may be willing to have it taken care of as a customer good will repair if you have had services done there in the past. You may even want to check with Subaru for any good will assistance.


This is what I would be doing.


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Re: Uh Oh. Subaru Front Halfshaft CV Going Bad [Re: ARCOgraphite] #5334802 01/28/20 05:25 PM
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The new Chinese axles seem ok. I have installed a few with no issues.


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Re: Uh Oh. Subaru Front Halfshaft CV Going Bad [Re: gathermewool] #5334807 01/28/20 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by gathermewool
What symptoms do you have? I'd get a second opinion, unless you know what you're sure you know what it is and the dealer WAS the second opinion.

I'm curious to hear what people report, since my extended warranty is up and I occasionally hear a clicking from the front right while making tight right turns and accelerating.


Clacking from the fight front when cornering under acceleration. Seems the Axles are at an extreme angle on the Impreza.

I have to do some more "parking lot circles: to diagnose further. I've also heard of center support bearings/rubber damper going on the center drive shaft, rearward.

Never had issue like this on a Subaru over Decades. Accordion boots are fine. I might get a new boot clamp and pull the boot back and see if there are metal bits - and move the grease around. Doesnt seem any worse than any NEW 4WD truck I've owned,

Also I might make sure the axle is in all the way at the differential side. This model year the halfshaft splines just pop in, no circlips or roll pins.

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Re: Uh Oh. Subaru Front Halfshaft CV Going Bad [Re: ls973800] #5334813 01/28/20 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ls973800
Wife hears noise once and a while, dealer assessed at the recent 60K service that the front right outer CV was failing.

How close to the 60K service was it? Your factory powertrain warranty covers this part for 5 years or 60000 miles.

If under the 60000 you have warranty. If just a little bit over, the dealer may be willing to have it taken care of as a customer good will repair if you have had services done there in the past. You may even want to check with Subaru for any good will assistance.

I think she was at 62K. We were doing "alacarte" service since they want a fourtune. They bled the complete braking system and rotated the tires and did a under chassis inspection. I did everything else - minus changing the Ruthenium spark plugs. I am not pulling 17 dollar long ife plugs at 60k/3 years that should be 100K easy. Engine runs great no misfire, good fuel mileage.

I also did the last two OCI since they mess those up terribly.

I would had done the plead for leniency but the wife did this on her own and is not a barterer.
Maybe I can get her to call SoA. I would plead my case to the Service manager and owner. I dont know them and they dont seem like nice guys.


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Re: Uh Oh. Subaru Front Halfshaft CV Going Bad [Re: dishdude] #5334815 01/28/20 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by dishdude
Originally Posted by ls973800
Wife hears noise once and a while, dealer assessed at the recent 60K service that the front right outer CV was failing.

How close to the 60K service was it? Your factory powertrain warranty covers this part for 5 years or 60000 miles.

If under the 60000 you have warranty. If just a little bit over, the dealer may be willing to have it taken care of as a customer good will repair if you have had services done there in the past. You may even want to check with Subaru for any good will assistance.


This is what I would be doing.
Aftermarket axle on a 2017 with 60k, lol. If a CV went on a car I bought new at 60k I wouldn't be paying for it. The dealer is trying to soak you, OP.


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Re: Uh Oh. Subaru Front Halfshaft CV Going Bad [Re: spavel6] #5334818 01/28/20 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by spavel6
I just did one on a friend's car a month or so ago. Same symptoms, rattling around turns. I believe their's is a 2014 Crosstrek.

Took about 30 minutes without removing anything - Just the axle nut.

Didn';t even need to drain the fluid as none came out of the case when we popped the axle out.

He chose to get an aftermarket. With how easy it is to go in, I don't blame him.


Thanks for the first hand knowledge

Did the '14 Crosstrek have a roll pin at the diff end? Or did you just pry it out of the case with a big bertha?

-thx - Ken


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Re: Uh Oh. Subaru Front Halfshaft CV Going Bad [Re: maxdustington] #5334821 01/28/20 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by maxdustington
Originally Posted by dishdude
Originally Posted by ls973800
Wife hears noise once and a while, dealer assessed at the recent 60K service that the front right outer CV was failing.

How close to the 60K service was it? Your factory powertrain warranty covers this part for 5 years or 60000 miles.

If under the 60000 you have warranty. If just a little bit over, the dealer may be willing to have it taken care of as a customer good will repair if you have had services done there in the past. You may even want to check with Subaru for any good will assistance.


This is what I would be doing.
Aftermarket axle on a 2017 with 60k, lol. If a CV went on a car I bought new at 60k I wouldn't be paying for it. The dealer is trying to soak you, OP.


Really? Around here even if you are a bit within warranty mileage they deny smile

But they are overcharging on labour, but Subaru shop manual wants tech to unbolt the strut from the hub assy and the redo the FEA, The shad tree "cheat" is to separate the lower ball joint so no alignment is required then the job is only 1/2 hour after the car is in the air and the tire is off.
They soaked my wife for $228 to just bleed the brakes!


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Re: Uh Oh. Subaru Front Halfshaft CV Going Bad [Re: supton] #5334829 01/28/20 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by supton
Seems early to go out. Is the boot split? Wondering if it's a proper diagnosis.

IIRC you swap out cars often; is this a real problem? I mean, if you're just going to trade soon...
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She thinks its going to explode(!) and fail, then she said the car is worthless as it is smile

A little overreacting(?) But she does have a high speed (75mph+) interstate commute for a bit down 495-S from Haverhill, MA to Andover , MA as she is heading to Wilmington, MA to Charles River Labs at 4 in the AM. Yeah, 4AM.

The boot is fine. The car is only 3 -1/2 years old. The "jacked up" impreza that is a Crosstrek puts the halfshafts at an extreme angle.
This must "do a job" on the outer fronts.'

IDK.


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Re: Uh Oh. Subaru Front Halfshaft CV Going Bad [Re: ARCOgraphite] #5334920 01/28/20 08:29 PM
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The actual Impreza though, not the jacked up Impreza with plastic body cladding, has the axles at a completely normal angle for a car. It is very unusual part to go out at 62K miles and not be caused by a torn boot where the grease leaked out and dirt got in. More like 10 year lifetime on the OEM part. You might check Crosstrek forums but the actual new gen Impreza 2017+ are not calling this a problem area. The Chinese axles have put a lot of the local rebuilders out of business. The local car guys radio show said the Chinese axles are quite good now and inexpensive. Their opinion was it is hard to justify using a reman when you can buy one of the new Chinese ones have a lifetime warranty like Raxles, cheaper than a reman. Lifetime meaning they will give you one free replacement part. For a 3 year old car it would be natural to want the genuine Subaru part. I should think Subaru corporate would do maybe a 50-50 good will repair or provide the part free and dealer charges for labor only. Have a reasonable expectation though because 62,000 is still past the warranty. Good luck.

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Call Subaru Corporate and ask for goodwill assistance.


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Re: Uh Oh. Subaru Front Halfshaft CV Going Bad [Re: Miller88] #5334970 01/28/20 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Miller88
I would not recommend running aftermarket axles in a subaru. I'm in a few facebook groups for Subarus and the aftermarket ones are problematic. I'd try to find a junkyard one in good shape and reboot it before running an aftermarket one


I've heard from my friends who are mechanics a similar story. My buddies recommend a full axle replacement and NOT aftermarket. They say they don't last.


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Re: Uh Oh. Subaru Front Halfshaft CV Going Bad [Re: ARCOgraphite] #5335003 01/28/20 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ARCOgraphite
Originally Posted by maxdustington
Originally Posted by dishdude
Originally Posted by ls973800
Wife hears noise once and a while, dealer assessed at the recent 60K service that the front right outer CV was failing.

How close to the 60K service was it? Your factory powertrain warranty covers this part for 5 years or 60000 miles.

If under the 60000 you have warranty. If just a little bit over, the dealer may be willing to have it taken care of as a customer good will repair if you have had services done there in the past. You may even want to check with Subaru for any good will assistance.


This is what I would be doing.
Aftermarket axle on a 2017 with 60k, lol. If a CV went on a car I bought new at 60k I wouldn't be paying for it. The dealer is trying to soak you, OP.


Really? Around here even if you are a bit within warranty mileage they deny smile

But they are overcharging on labour, but Subaru shop manual wants tech to unbolt the strut from the hub assy and the redo the FEA, The shad tree "cheat" is to separate the lower ball joint so no alignment is required then the job is only 1/2 hour after the car is in the air and the tire is off.
They soaked my wife for $228 to just bleed the brakes!


Rule #173B: it never hurts to ask and Subaru of America is EXTREMELY easy to contact!!!

Also, stop blaming your wife for high PMS costs; are you completely out of the loop when hundreds of dollars are being spent????


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