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GM Goes All In on EVs: Pickups & SUVs #5333680 01/27/20 01:11 PM
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https://www.greencarreports.com/new...rst-us-plant-to-build-only-electric-cars

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...On Monday, GM announced the U.S. will get another all-EV plant. The company will spend $2.2 billion to convert its existing Detroit-Hamtramck plant to build only battery-electric vehicles. GM said that full employment at the plant is projected at 2,200 jobs—up from just 900 at the plant today.

...What will those vehicles be? GM said Hamtramck will ultimately produce a “variety of all-electric trucks and SUVs.” While the company didn’t specify underlying platforms, the plant is being retooled for multiple vehicles built on GM’s “BEV3” electric-vehicle architecture.

Specifically, GM said one of the new EVs built in the plant will be an "electric pickup truck" scheduled to launch late in 2021. It added that the recently announced Cruise Origin self-driving shuttle vehicle will be built in Hamtramck “soon after” the EV pickup truck’s debut.

The electric pickup may be a GMC Hummer, turning the well-known but polarizing brand derived from military trucks into a model line under GM's luxury-truck label GMC. Little else is known about the truck—and the rumored revival of Hummer could be wrong—but watch for little bits of information to dribble out at regular intervals over the next 18 months.

...GM’s announcement couches Hamtramck as the company’s first all-EV plant. It certainly doesn’t mention Tesla, and it also ignores another company whose own plant dedicated to electric vehicles will open around the same time as GM’s.

That would be Rivian, the quiet startup that spent nine years in stealth mode before debuting its full-size R1T electric pickup truck and R1S electric SUV in fall 2018.

Rivian will soon announce how much the R1T and R1S will cost and claims that tens of thousands of people have put down deposits of $1,000 to get in line for its electric trucks, which are expected to be produced in the second half of next year. They will be built at the Normal, Illinois, assembly plant the electric-truck maker bought from Mitsubishi several years ago.

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Has anyone noticed the sudden push on Electric vehicles ,veganism and banning air transportation to save the Earth?


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Re: GM Goes All In on EVs: Pickups & SUVs [Re: SubLGT] #5333903 01/27/20 04:53 PM
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Not in the military thou ... LOL


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Re: GM Goes All In on EVs: Pickups & SUVs [Re: SubLGT] #5333910 01/27/20 05:00 PM
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The market drives demand, not production. No matter how hard EVs are pushed, people will vote with their wallets.

At some point I think the tech will reach the point where demand catches up to where environmentalists would like to see it, but I don't think we have reached that point yet.

It will happen in my lifetime, if I live to a ripe older age.

Re: GM Goes All In on EVs: Pickups & SUVs [Re: CT8] #5333921 01/27/20 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by CT8
Has anyone noticed the sudden push on Electric vehicles ,veganism and banning air transportation to save the Earth?

No.


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Re: GM Goes All In on EVs: Pickups & SUVs [Re: SubLGT] #5333980 01/27/20 06:18 PM
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There it is, the beginning of the end of cheap, reliable electric power.


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Re: GM Goes All In on EVs: Pickups & SUVs [Re: SubLGT] #5334039 01/27/20 07:18 PM
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I'm still trying to wrap my head around the idea of electric trucks-wouldn't the battery packs be heavy enough to cut WAY back on payload rating?


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Re: GM Goes All In on EVs: Pickups & SUVs [Re: supton] #5334093 01/27/20 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by supton
Originally Posted by CT8
Has anyone noticed the sudden push on Electric vehicles ,veganism and banning air transportation to save the Earth?

No.

Originally Posted by supton
Originally Posted by CT8
Has anyone noticed the sudden push on Electric vehicles ,veganism and banning air transportation to save the Earth?

No.

Yes


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Re: GM Goes All In on EVs: Pickups & SUVs [Re: CT8] #5334136 01/27/20 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by CT8
Has anyone noticed the sudden push on Electric vehicles ,veganism and banning air transportation to save the Earth?

Yep-Yep-Yep!
The earth is in the early stages of global warming at an alarming rate. It was very slow and gradual for a couple decades. But not anymore. Full steam ahead. Governments are finally showing some concern, with combative plans starting to take place.

Can they get the warming stopped?..... No. Accomplishing that will take major wars - like half of the earth's population must fall victim first.


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Re: GM Goes All In on EVs: Pickups & SUVs [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5334143 01/27/20 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
Yep-Yep-Yep!
The earth is in the early stages of global warming at an alarming rate. It was very slow and gradual for a couple decades. But not anymore. Full steam ahead. Governments are finally showing some concern, with combative plans starting to take place.

Can they get the warming stopped?..... No. Accomplishing that will take major wars - like half of the earth's population must fall victim first.

Wait, you didn’t just make a global warming post, did you? Isn’t that topic prohibited?


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Re: GM Goes All In on EVs: Pickups & SUVs [Re: CT8] #5334207 01/27/20 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by CT8
Has anyone noticed the sudden push on Electric vehicles ,veganism and banning air transportation to save the Earth?

Push on EVs? Well, I've noticed demand. I bought one.
Veganism? I am not sure what that is, but I have heard of it. For example, our Model 3 has "Vegan leather" seats.
Banning air transportation? Nope. I am flying to San Diego this Saturday for $49 each way.
But i can tell you Mother Earth does not need us, we need Mother Earth.


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GM always was big in electric drive going way back. Locomotives, submarine generators, all sorts. Glad we had their abilities for our military through war and peace and still have them for our national security. They work on a lot of drive systems as this link shows.


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Re: GM Goes All In on EVs: Pickups & SUVs [Re: Dinoburner] #5334264 01/27/20 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Dinoburner
Originally Posted by supton
Originally Posted by CT8
Has anyone noticed the sudden push on Electric vehicles ,veganism and banning air transportation to save the Earth?

No.

Originally Posted by supton
Originally Posted by CT8
Has anyone noticed the sudden push on Electric vehicles ,veganism and banning air transportation to save the Earth?

No.

Yes



Yep....

Funny how these people follow a person who flies around in a private jet that uses more fuel in one cross country trip back and forth than the average American uses in a entire year... And that champion has a huge home that is not needed or necessary either...


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Re: GM Goes All In on EVs: Pickups & SUVs [Re: ArrestMeRedZ] #5334363 01/28/20 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ArrestMeRedZ
The market drives demand, not production. No matter how hard EVs are pushed, people will vote with their wallets.

At some point I think the tech will reach the point where demand catches up to where environmentalists would like to see it, but I don't think we have reached that point yet.

It will happen in my lifetime, if I live to a ripe older age.

Never. It's a sliding goal based on politics, not actual environmental concern, etc.


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Re: GM Goes All In on EVs: Pickups & SUVs [Re: bullwinkle] #5334902 01/28/20 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bullwinkle
I'm still trying to wrap my head around the idea of electric trucks-wouldn't the battery packs be heavy enough to cut WAY back on payload rating?



You already know that the average truck buyer uses his machine no harder than your wife does her Xb.
For most buyers, the pickup is more of a fashion statement than a tool.
Give 'em 300 miles range, a real back seat and four real doors and they won't care about the 900 lbs payload capacity.
If GM really follows through on this, then startups like Rivian are already DOA and even Tesla will take a serious hit.
GM has always been rife with new tech ideas, most of which never pass the idea stage.
If this new generation of GM electric trucks really does come to fruition I think we'll then see a major move to EVs throughout the average uniformed population.
Don't forget that even these days GM retains a level of market-push power that even Tesla lacks.


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