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yet another black eye for the 2,4 ecotec #5331345 01/24/20 08:52 PM
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Re: yet another black eye for the 2,4 ecotec [Re: super20dan] #5331347 01/24/20 08:54 PM
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Do you have any first hand experience or just brand bashing from something you saw online?


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Re: yet another black eye for the 2,4 ecotec [Re: dishdude] #5331368 01/24/20 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by dishdude
Do you have any first hand experience or just brand bashing from something you saw online?

I have always wondered about this question.
It is asked based on the premise that only an owner of said vehicle is worthy of discussing a topic.
It is a completely ridiculous notion and a bunch of high browed elitism.

Re: yet another black eye for the 2,4 ecotec [Re: Imp4] #5331371 01/24/20 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Imp4
Originally Posted by dishdude
Do you have any first hand experience or just brand bashing from something you saw online?

I have always wondered about this question.
It is asked based on the premise that only an owner of said vehicle is worthy of discussing a topic.
It is a completely ridiculous notion and a bunch of high browed elitism.



+1

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Re: yet another black eye for the 2,4 ecotec [Re: super20dan] #5331375 01/24/20 09:53 PM
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I worked with a couple of co-workers and they both had Oil consumption issues with their Ecotech motors. I don't think GM owned up to anything when they complained. One of them had an accident and vehicle written off. Other girl sold hers and went to a Honda H-RV.


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Re: yet another black eye for the 2,4 ecotec [Re: Imp4] #5331381 01/24/20 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Imp4
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Do you have any first hand experience or just brand bashing from something you saw online?

I have always wondered about this question.
It is asked based on the premise that only an owner of said vehicle is worthy of discussing a topic.
It is a completely ridiculous notion and a bunch of high browed elitism.



There are a handful of people that for whatever reason have decided they don't like a particular make of vehicle and for some reason feel the need to spam the board with irrelevant threads, posts and commentary that they have no firsthand knowledge of. It's getting old.


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Re: yet another black eye for the 2,4 ecotec [Re: super20dan] #5331382 01/24/20 09:59 PM
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Is this going to be mention a cr*p motor thread-I will start

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Whats the point of these stupid threads?

Re: yet another black eye for the 2,4 ecotec [Re: CKN] #5331387 01/24/20 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by CKN
Whats the point of these stupid threads?

If you don't like it, just move along.
Nothing to see here...
cheers

Re: yet another black eye for the 2,4 ecotec [Re: super20dan] #5331412 01/24/20 10:46 PM
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The PCV system issue is no secret on the 2.4... it either clogs or freezes and blows the rear main.

You know what other engine LOVES to do the exact same thing? The 2.0 TSFI VW engine, specifically the EA888. And I've seen FAR more of those with blown rear mains than 2.4's. However, the 2.4 in the Equinox will eat the timing chain for lunch if it gets the chance. It doesn't seem to happen as much in any other platform, just the Equinox. My boss has bought 2 of them off customers in the last year due to blown engines and an $8k bill to replace. We won't put used engines in those, too risky. I've gotten so good at doing the engines that I can have a crate motor in and running in about 6 hours. I don't even take the front wheels off to swap the engine.


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Re: yet another black eye for the 2,4 ecotec [Re: 14Accent] #5331427 01/24/20 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 14Accent
The PCV system issue is no secret on the 2.4... it either clogs or freezes and blows the rear main.

You know what other engine LOVES to do the exact same thing? The 2.0 TSFI VW engine, specifically the EA888. And I've seen FAR more of those with blown rear mains than 2.4's. However, the 2.4 in the Equinox will eat the timing chain for lunch if it gets the chance. It doesn't seem to happen as much in any other platform, just the Equinox. My boss has bought 2 of them off customers in the last year due to blown engines and an $8k bill to replace. We won't put used engines in those, too risky. I've gotten so good at doing the engines that I can have a crate motor in and running in about 6 hours. I don't even take the front wheels off to swap the engine.


I see more Malibus with timing chain problems, but maybe I just work on more Malibus, period. They also like to melt the passenger headlight connector.

Almost every 2.4 that I see has a chain rattle on a cold start, and large metal flakes come out when I drain the oil. And the VVT solenoids are usually malfunctioning.
I've gotten pretty good at replacing 2.4 timing sets, but I do take off the right front wheel.

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Originally Posted by 14Accent
The PCV system issue is no secret on the 2.4... it either clogs or freezes and blows the rear main.

You know what other engine LOVES to do the exact same thing? The 2.0 TSFI VW engine, specifically the EA888. And I've seen FAR more of those with blown rear mains than 2.4's. However, the 2.4 in the Equinox will eat the timing chain for lunch if it gets the chance. It doesn't seem to happen as much in any other platform, just the Equinox. My boss has bought 2 of them off customers in the last year due to blown engines and an $8k bill to replace. We won't put used engines in those, too risky. I've gotten so good at doing the engines that I can have a crate motor in and running in about 6 hours. I don't even take the front wheels off to swap the engine.


I see more Malibus with timing chain problems, but maybe I just work on more Malibus, period. They also like to melt the passenger headlight connector.

Almost every 2.4 that I see has a chain rattle on a cold start, and large metal flakes come out when I drain the oil. And the VVT solenoids are usually malfunctioning.
I've gotten pretty good at replacing 2.4 timing sets, but I do take off the right front wheel.


Definitely with you on the Malibu's. Don't you love that you have to take the bumper off just to replace a headlight harness? Good lord what were they thinking?

I don't even bother doing the chains on the 2.4. With all the other engine issues, at 100k it just makes more sense to replace it with something that has a solid warranty.


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Re: yet another black eye for the 2,4 ecotec [Re: super20dan] #5331466 01/25/20 12:05 AM
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I have about 140k on my 2.4 Pontiac G6. Drinks oil , timing chain rattle at startup every so often also the headlights wiring harness melt a few times. Other than that it's been a good beater for 13 years.


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Re: yet another black eye for the 2,4 ecotec [Re: dishdude] #5331480 01/25/20 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by dishdude
Originally Posted by Imp4
Originally Posted by dishdude
Do you have any first hand experience or just brand bashing from something you saw online?

I have always wondered about this question.
It is asked based on the premise that only an owner of said vehicle is worthy of discussing a topic.
It is a completely ridiculous notion and a bunch of high browed elitism.



There are a handful of people that for whatever reason have decided they don't like a particular make of vehicle and for some reason feel the need to spam the board with irrelevant threads, posts and commentary that they have no firsthand knowledge of. It's getting old.

This^^^^^^^^^^^^^=200%

Re: yet another black eye for the 2,4 ecotec [Re: CKN] #5331508 01/25/20 02:59 AM
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Yeah, there's one guy who bashes Crown Vics, 4Runners, and Michelins on a regular basis...

Re: yet another black eye for the 2,4 ecotec [Re: super20dan] #5331511 01/25/20 03:06 AM
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this issue includes many brands in colder weathers. Can be oil related too.

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